We heard yesterday that this was coming and have been given an idea of what's in them. Its not the best if true.
WASHINGTON–Please join U.S. Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx and Deputy Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Administrator Michael Whitaker for an announcement about the aircraft registration process for owners of small unmanned aircraft systems (UAS). A Registration Task Force delivered recommendations to FAA Administrator Michael Huerta and Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx on November 21, 2015.
When: Monday, December 14, 2015 at 9:30 a.m. EST
Comments
Several observations.
Patrick Duffy stated:
"General aviation has been, since the beginning, the realm of the elite, and they control the air."
this is utter nonsense. general aviation was created by a couple of bicycle mechanics. You can purchase a completely airworthy 4 seat aircraft for less money than a new pickup truck. Learning to fly it will cost you less than a lot of folks have in their quadcopters. GA absolutely does not belong to the elite nor is it controlled by the GA groups.
John Dennings stated:
"Agree with Randy, but this should be done with regulations first proposed and then properly voted by congress, after proper notices of rule making, etc ..."
Perhaps a fine point, but regulations have never been voted on by congress. Laws are made by congress, regulations are made by the agencies congress delegates authority to, as congress has delegated to the FAA. The regulations in question regarding drones have in fact gone through the designated public process and have, in fact, been modified from the original proposals in response to public comment.
The registration requirements are not, as has also been observed, are not particularly enforceable EXCEPT in the case of an accident where identification of wreckage leads to a registered operator. An unregistered sUAS would not provide any such links to responsible parties. The FAA does not have the resources to enforce existing regulations on piloted aircraft (without an accident), much less to go looking for unregistered drone operators.
This really isn't an onerous requirement at all. It also provides an avenue to provide some information for new drone pilots about the national airspace system and the existing rules for operating in it.
It should be noted that there really are not that many rules for operation of piloted aircraft in class G airspace... below 1200' above ground level, or 700' AGL depending on where you are.
I think that all of this has come about because of the unprecedented ability of anyone being able to get and operate a fully autonomous aircraft (this is a good thing...) and this scares people that do not participate. Much like people that do not participate in General Aviation thinking it is an elitist and controlling beast.
F U faa. you can kiss my ass with fienstein at the front of the line. keep giving into these asswipes and watch how they will walk all over you.
Patrick you're spot on.
Sheeple have always been the problem throughout history.
As MLJ put it; "bad things happen because good people let it."
Where are all the good people gone?
Can I just fly under FAA part 103 rules?
Driving a motor vehicle without registration results in a fine of a few hundred bucks. Why should operating an unregistered toy be tens of thousands!? That is in addition to any criminal charges due to the operators action such as endangering the public, etc. Why isn't the fine a fixed dollar amount? Allowing the fine to float will allow authorities to crack down more harshly on certain people at their discretion. This will increase the risk of racial profiling for instance. Let me guess, in order to receive the max penalty, you have to be Muslim because, you know, a Muslim with a drone must be a terrorist which is extra scary and dangerous therefore 27k becomes a fitting punishment. I apologize if my hypothetical offends anybody but I believe it will be too easy for the authorities to act maliciously when issuing fines without a better defined penalty structure.
Plus let's say that your craft has a legitimate accidental failure such as a battery fire or motor failure and then causes damage or injuries to someone upon crashing. It is possible that the faa will revoke your license which will prevent you from flying at all for who knows how long but it will likely be for the 3 year registration cycle or longer. They have not stated how they will handle license revokation but they could conceivably ban you for life for a minor incident.
everybody knows about registration now but what about in 7 years? There will be many casual operators who accidentally let their licenses lapse because of forgetfulness or inattentiveness. Then when they dust off the plane they forgot about to take it for a spin one day they can get busted with a hefty fine. Many responsible operators will still be at risk of penalties.
Patric,
Agreed 100% with you.
Just wanted to add - a $5 now (and more expensive later) for 1,600,000 drone sales in US is more than $7,500,000. Doesn't seem like much? Wait and see what else will require to get your registration card. New paid services and soon required will be created. They will report new jobs creation while in-fact those jobs will produce nothing tangible for the economy but will make them look good!
Until we, as people of a free country will eat it - they will feed it..
If the law exist, why take new actions? If there is no law - how does it make registration a lawful requirement? Easy, they just don't care!
My biggest problem with this power grab is not the registration itself. It's the fact that the FAA is doing this without any act of congress or new laws being passed - it's a bureaucratic power grab, on plane with the POTUS executive orders that opened the borders. They claim that they are just enforcing existing law by applying the already-existing rules to drones, but what they fail to explain is why didn't they apply the law to UAV's in the past, literally for decades they have never tried to claim that hobby planes or copters fell under these rules. Therefore their dereliction of enforcement over the years was an ad-hoc admission that they did not have the jurisdiction to do what they are doing, otherwise they would have done it when congress enacted the rules.
So why now are they moving to re-classify drones to be treated as if they were civil aircraft? Simpy because it's more popular and is affordable to the common man, and just like real aircraft, they don't want the 'common man' in their club. Get the picture? The 'general pubic' cannot be trusted with such freedom, which is why they want to take away the guns too - you are not trustworthy with such freedoms - because you are sheep. And sheep can't fly or shoot.
General aviation has been, since the beginning, the realm of the elite, and they control the air. This is a move to tell all of you sheep that they control you. They are peeing on your tree, and there is nothing you can do to stop it.
Randy,
I would've agreed with you if not for a few simple facts:
- We've been flying RCs for over 80 years.
- Local and FAA laws are strict enough to punish people.
- If someone wants to hide their identity - they will. FAA does not require to engrave registration on DJI drone at the time of the purchase and does not require Credit Card to purchase it.
- with current opinion on a drone issue there will be no shortage of people ready to report you to the police in your local park or elsewhere.
- there is a valid statistics that birds cause major aircraft strikes and no strikes by RC planes or drones. How do we license birds? Give it time and we all be paying for Government program to count all birds besides paying for TSA and overpriced airport security.
You like to pay for phony professionals that make no difference in this World - your choice.
Registration will not bring any accountability at all if person means harm, only hurtles to those who obeys the Law.
Just a thought..
cheers
My two cents on this.. I don't think it's a bad thing that drones are registered. If we're going to have millions and millions of new pilots, there are going to be a lot of them who don't know what they're doing and then do very silly, dangerous things. Some accountability is a good thing.
Obviously unreasonable restrictions against where people can fly is not good but a registration by itself doesn't seem so bad to me.
The jungle drums are beating again. Rearrange this well known phrase or sentence. Action and Legal
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