Who is legally accountable in case of drone crash reported to FAA ?

Posted by Darius Jack on March 13, 2016 at 8:09am

Hi,

could you tell me who is personally, legally accountable in case of drone crash case reported to law enforcement officers, FAA due to known bugs, flaws in Pixhawk flight controller ?

I have followed tens of discussions on this and other forums and questions asked by hobbyists are responded by hobbyists either.

There is no interest on the side of Pixhawk developer/s  from Switzerland

to take active part in such discussions.

The last discussion at DIYDrones

and history from

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/drones-discuss/iZmeopHOLGM/discussion

are good examples how hobbyists try to response to problems asked by hobbyists and just fail, since such questions should be responded by genuine

developer/s of Pixhawk originating from the Switzerland.

GPS is used...

No GPS isn't used...

I am surprised to learn GPS is used..

I have been surprised ..

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    • Erik Graham > Darius Jack March 17, 2016 at 4:42pm
      Why ask the question in the first place since you seem to have all the answers already?
    • Darius Jack > Erik Graham March 17, 2016 at 6:06pm

      @Erik,

      I am interested to implement Personal Drone Certification Standard.

      If personal drone manufactured by DJI, so certified by DJI as aircraft to meet all aircraft standards.

      If assembled by DIY, so assembled from certified parts.

      Parts certified by every single manufacturer of drone parts.

      Since many drone parts like motors, ESC, battery, BEC .... may find use and application in non-drone products, I would like manufacturers of such parts to declare, they are fit for drones, have been pretested to operate safely, if installed in DIY drone (aircraft).

      Exactly to save jail term in few cases of third party personal injuries due to drone crash piloted correctly by a hobbyist, if the drone has been assembled from "Drone Certified" marked parts, assembled correctly according to attached manual/s and piloted safely, under FAA standards

      and the crash is due to failure, burn out in drone part, drone sensor,  drone controller or drone firmware code.

      It may take me few days, weeks or months to have manufacturers of drone parts to implement

      "Drone Certified" Mark and Standard globe-wide, since no regional restrictions exist.

      Self certification procedure by manufacturers of drone parts looks to

      be a welcome standard under new personal drone registration legislation enacted and implemented by FAA,

      to let hobbyists and give them a chance and an apportunity to select and purchase

      "Drone Certified" parts only for use to build his/her DIY safe drone.

      "Drone Certified" Mark and Standard can be implemented easily by first manufacturer of drone parts, second, third,  today or tomorrow,

      as a guidance to DIY drone hobbyists to select and purchase

      "Drone Certified" marked parts, tested to meet safe personal drone (aircraft)

      operation standards set by FAA.

      So I still don't have many answers yet.

      Just let me know your opinion about

      "Drone Certified"  Mark and Standard for drone parts

    • Yun Tak(YT) lee > Darius Jack March 19, 2016 at 3:12pm

      What you are trying is finding a way to make a buck or two from the drone industry and the users. If you are really concern the safety, please contact AMA, they are in the R/C business for much much longer time than drone which is the latest addition to R/C. Which was good for R/C should be good for the drone.

      BTW automobile has been around very long time now, can you name one that is perfectly safe? same for any other man made objects, drone carries certain risk. That said, I don't see it is riskier than gun. Why don't you try to make gun more safe.

    • Erik Graham > Darius Jack March 18, 2016 at 7:23am
      Again, you seem to have all the answers, so why ask the question?
    • Clifton Hipsher > Darius Jack March 17, 2016 at 7:00pm

      I think you don't have a clue or a snow ball's chance.  What you are talking about is equivalent to the US Navy's SubSafe Program, and after reading through some of your previous posts it is obvious to me that you do not have the technical knowledge to pull this off.

      Secondly, NO ONE is going to pay you to "certify" something that does not require any formal governmental certification. 

      To use a colloquialism that is popular with raccoon hunters, "Sorry to say, but that dog just don't hunt..."

       

      SUBSAFE
      The Submarine Safety Program (SUBSAFE), is a quality assurance program of the United States Navy designed to maintain the safety of its submarine fle…
    • Francisco K > Darius Jack March 13, 2016 at 8:19pm

      First of all, Pixhawk is NOT a software its the name that was given to the flight controller, you tool...

      Second of all, the developers have gone through extreme measures to ensure, the firmware you upload to the Pixhawk is safe to use and won't cause any issues. 


      Third of all, its your responsibility to ensure your drone has been setup correctly, failure to do so can lead to crashes and you SHOULD NOT be holding the developers accountable for, because of your stupidity and ignorance to adhere to procedures.


      I've been in this hobby for years and I fully understand the risks associated with this hobby. If my plane/drone crashes, that's because I did something wrong, and I must accept the mistake and learn from it.


      Last but not least, blaming someone else (developers) for your stupidity and lack of knowledge on the subject is a recipe for disaster. I'd encourage you to do some researching and reading, it helps...

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