Hi,
All my friends that flying NAZA asking me why i did not buy DJI NAZA as it work from the box.... I build my F450 based on APM 2.6 and still tuning it... Well it still fly like a boat on the sea.. Lots of oscillation etc. My friends have NAZA and they flying without problem :( What is so special with NAZA that APM don't have? I can't make an autotune because i use dx6i so do not know how to setup to make a channel for it... The worst thing is that they have less knowledge and experience then me in RC (i fly helis 600 and 450 size) and they are flying the quads with DJI NAZA and my quad is unflyable because those PIDs thing... WHY NAZA is ready to fly??
My setup, logs and video how it wooble...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s56UBBxiqgI
F450 frame
DJI OPTO 30A ESC
DJI 2212 Motors with 10x38 props
3DR APM2.6 with external compass
3S 2200 40C Lipo
Spectrum dx6i TX with AR6210 with sattelite reciver.
3DR Power Module for APM
I use arducopter 3.1.2 firmware
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hi chris, is there any special set up PID for carbon propeller 10x38,,, ?
i need your suggest
Thx,
Hi Chris,
Wow, where i can find those sliders in mission planner? When i go to expert params i don't see them... Only i see the numbers... I use stock DJI F450 frame with stock motors and props from the kit. So You suggest that i should lower the params of the Roll/pitch rate to lowee and then it will fly????
Thomas: They're right at the top of the Config/Tuning tab screen:
Thank You Chris i will try this.
It sounds to me like you are not following any of the very detailed tuning processes for your Arducopter. If you just follow the guides, you will have it tuned up in one afternoon. And being too lazy to read instructions on your radio is not the APM's fault.
Hymm.. I read all manual from the http://copter.ardupilot.com/. I mounted my APM on Kyosho gel to remove vibration ( i read the logs and i they are ok as with the manual). I made ACC and GYRO calibration, i made a compass moth calibration.... My GPS and Compass are mounted on higher stand, my only trouble is that PIDS, my quad is oscillating so much... i now lower the gains etc.. I'm not lazy... What is trouble me is why NAZA controller is ready for use from the box and APM is not? Why they just attach it and fly and i'm have to do all the pid thing? It is not easy... My friend just buy a tarot F450 frame, put the naza controller and it;s flying so well.. Why APM can't do it?
jg9 i have only Spectrum Radio dx6i... I still looking how to tune the radio for auto tune but it seems to not have enough channels :( I'm not saying that NAZA is better then APM but its surely easier then APM to conf... And that's why i start this thread... Is there any way to make it easier to make it fly like NAZA? I don't have any telemtery right now...
I will try that, thank You for the TIP.
I will try that what You suggest. I did not connect the Gear channel from my receiver as it Was in copter manual... The 7 and 8 channel was as optional...
Ok Thomas you really should read up more in the arducopter manual and do a search for settings on here for your F450 it should be easy to setup, that 450 has been done so many times its beat to death. As for naza let me tell you they all aren't plug and play. You can get away with Naza setup stock on a DJI specific copter pretty easy but I assure you that you will be doing a little tuning to get it how you like it. That being said, I have a close to 1000mm Heavy Lift Y6 with Naza on it. First Naza for me as I have always stuck with the 3DR gear. Anyhow I just wanted to try it and boy oh boy I spend a good 10 days tweaking on the software to get it first flying correct and then fine tuned to my type of use. The manual from Naza is terrible in my opinion. So when it all comes out in the wash Naza is good, APM is good too. Naza for most commercial available machines is easier to setup most of the time but don't fault the APM now because there is now a library of copters that you can essentially match up what you have and plug in the PID's and fly now. And yes you will still tweak on both.
Most mistakes are user errors. I have done them myself so just make sure you Slow Down and take one thing at a time. If you don't have the answer or knowledge post it on a forum or do a web search but just wait cause even though some of this Chinese knock off stuff is cheap its still coming out of your pocket book and stupid mistakes hurt. Also I always have stuck with the Originators products yes a few bucks more but in the long run lots of less wasted time and you have some recourse. IE knock off APM gear... Just my opinion.
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