Activists’ drone shot out of the sky for fourth time

By Matthew Schroyer sUAS News

“As soon as I hit the go home mode, because the GPS and compasses were damaged, it went crazy,” Hindi said. “I flipped off the ‘come home’ mode and went into manual control. It wasn’t working right, but we were able to bring it in for a crash landing anyway.”

“I had more control than I anticipated,” he said. “I couldn’t believe it didn’t just drop out of the sky.”

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Comment by Tony Heaton on November 19, 2012 at 2:17pm
More shooters aiming at different points on the drone are needed. If it is in shotgun range, I'd just use some #4 steel shot. When the pilot attempts to come on private property to retrieve the downed drone is when a rifle would come in handy.
Comment by Jesse on November 19, 2012 at 2:52pm

I've never heard of such a shooting event. Hunting is one thing, as well as shooting at inanimate targets. But literally shooting & killing animals for sport, that's just wrong. It's nice to see drones being used for a good cause. I love shooting myself, but this is fully unethical. I'm also all for gun rights, but not abuse of those rights as Tony has suggested.

Comment by Christopher Cooper on November 19, 2012 at 3:01pm

Good on these guys for trying to shine a light on this barbaric practice.

Comment by Tony Heaton on November 19, 2012 at 3:08pm

Just where did I suggest abusing rights.  The drone pilot violated the property rights of the club.  In my scenario, the pilot would further violate the clubs property rights by trespassing on private property to retrieve the downed drone.  I didn't say to shoot the trespasser but if warned to leave and the trespasser became violent, then I would shoot him/her.  Before you jump in claiming the gun club violated the property rights of the pilot, the pilot lost his property rights over the drone when he used it to violate the clubs rights.  We have an entire industry built on raising animals and then slaughtering them for food, cattle, turkey, chicken, buffalo, etc...  As far as I know, this club was not violating any laws.  It is not the duty of an activist to monitor what happens on private property.  If they feel laws are being violated, they should notify the authorities.   For full disclosure, I believe these types of pigeon shoots are disgusting.  However, unless they are violating my rights, it is none of my business what they do.  Even if they are violating the law, it is none of my business, it is the business of local law enforcement.  If I witness the violation, I have a duty to report them and that is it.  If I witness a violation and waiting could result in the injury or death of a human then I do have a duty to step in and attempt to stop it.  That was no the case in this non-incident.  I'm not sure how it even warranted a post on SUASNEWS or DIYDRONES.  It is not news.  If it is, then we should all start posting every crash we have as news.  My quad was attacked by a Turkey-Vulture yesterday, is that news?

Comment by Andrew Radford on November 19, 2012 at 3:09pm

Kinda makes you think the protesters should develop  some alternate APM firmware to emulate a pigeon. The hunters can shoot the pigeon drones, everyone is happy. Especially the pigeons.

I would have thought 4 Cinestar Octos pays for quite a few APM pigeons. 

Comment by Luke Olson on November 19, 2012 at 3:17pm

You know what they say, fool me once... 

Comment by Rob_Lefebvre on November 19, 2012 at 3:17pm

Nice attempt at backtracking Tony.  There are two simple facts here:

1) It is not trespassing, or a violation of any rights of the club, for that drone to fly over their property.

2) Them shooting it down is a violation of the owner's property rights.  

Comment by Tony Heaton on November 19, 2012 at 3:34pm

R_Lefebvre, I'm not backtracking.  I never said shoot the guy.  However, if you come on my property without my permission you had better be prepared to be shot.  In my scenario, the guy came on the club property to retrieve a downed drone.  Without permission, that is trespassing.  If you fly a drone over my property, especially at low altitude, it is no different than you walking on to my property un-invited, your drone will be shot at (if safe to do so).  If I down your drone, you will not get it back.  Sounds like this has happened to these bunny huggers already and they haven't got the drone back.  We'll have to see how that litigation turns out.

In your world, a skycraper can't be built because the property owner doesn't own the right to the area above his property.  Therefore, I can just walk into anybodys home in a skyscraper and do whatever I please because it is above ground level where rights don't exist.  Maybe I should build a two-thousand square foot addition to my house and cantilever it out over my neighbors yard,  Heck, he doesn't have a right to anything above the ground.

We don't live in a two-dimensional world, I own the mineral rights to my property, that means you can't tunnel under my property either.  I also own a certain portion of the space above my property.  I'm not sure exactly what it is but it sure isn't flat.


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Comment by Sgt Ric on November 19, 2012 at 3:47pm

You own the amount of space above your property that you require to make use of your land, such as throwing a ball in the air, etc.

Everything else belongs to the National Airspace, administered by the FAA.

 


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Comment by Sgt Ric on November 19, 2012 at 3:57pm

As much fun all those vids of hawks and turkey vultures attacking R/C planes are, I suppose a video of them attacking a quad would be a bit more messy.

 

 

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