Guys, stop buying and flying quads when you don't know what you are doing. Especially over crowds or populated areas. This should be common sense.
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I hope the NYPD nail this guy for reckless endangerment. I know that most drone hobbyists and the professional drone community would endorse this view. I am not a citizen of the USA so I can do nothing - but you guys in the States could make you views public instead of just discussing it in a forum. Is there now a case for some form of self regulation and would that even work?
Alan
Amen to that CliffN. :)
I doubt Geo-Fence would work as well as all other GPS option, lots of obstruction and radio noise in cities.
true sense people claim technology is getting smarter, the problem is People using them are getting dumber.
this part below ,Doc Hicks is exactly what i have been trying to say
But some of the rules proposed by the community are to close to what a senator would do, banning or heavily regulating
What I see is a big enough increase in personal and property damage for a Senator looking to make a name for him/herself introducing a bill to ban these "Dangerous toys"
So the government turns to the manufacturers (ie 3D Robotics) and asks them what they have done to protect the public, and all 3DR can say is "we put a warning in the manual" then 3DR could see their 30 million dollar investment go up in (magic) smoke.
It's 3DR's Nelly, more then any other product, that has hit that magic spot of low price and hi tech. You don't even need a TX to fly it. Out of the box you can link it to a smart phone and geo-send it off to fly itself anywhere you choose,
It's great business for 3DR to sell thousands of Nelly's (and they will) but the statistical probability of accidents and/or idiots increases, and the sooner it comes to that Senator's attention."
I don't see some kind of "quadmageton" with uncontrolled UAV's slicing through Kindergartens and decapitating pensioners in the street.
What I see is a big enough increase in personal and property damage for a Senator looking to make a name for him/herself introducing a bill to ban these "Dangerous toys"
So the government turns to the manufacturers (ie 3D Robotics) and asks them what they have done to protect the public, and all 3DR can say is "we put a warning in the manual" then 3DR could see their 30 million dollar investment go up in (magic) smoke.
It's 3DR's Nelly, more then any other product, that has hit that magic spot of low price and hi tech. You don't even need a TX to fly it. Out of the box you can link it to a smart phone and geo-send it off to fly itself anywhere you choose,
It's great business for 3DR to sell thousands of Nelly's (and they will) but the statistical probability of accidents and/or idiots increases, and the sooner it comes to that Senator's attention.
It's in their own interest to adapt the technology they've put into their machines to restrict, as much as possible, the harm they can do
we aren't upset but we will be when the ban hammer falls, the fact is something needs to be done!
I'm not as upset about this as some of the rest of you seem to be. Sure it was a very careless an thoughtless action on the part of the operator, but realisitically shouldn't we almost expect this to happen? Afterall, the growthrate of this hobby is large and every day there are more and more people flying planes, quads, etc. Considering that almost all of us drive an automobile (statistically speaking) which arguably has an equal or greater ability to mame and kill, I figure this is simply a sign of the times. Consider the thought that every day you pass by countless people on the road that could instantly kill you just by THEM having a moment where they aren't concentrated. Anyhow, I'm not trying to provoke, just hoping it is all taken with a grain of salt.
I agree 100% -> it's TBS fault - stupid behaviour is stupid even if you're not a noob
The problem with
"Set up a "Geo-Fenced" set of parameters" is who does it ?. Unfortunately GPS signal is available every where how ever it is not GPS satellite that will perform geo fensing. So it is the flyer/auto pilot where the such parameters are set. And these r available off the shelf /online to any one who can buy/fly. The problem is not with the technology , it is the person who uses it. Educating this person is the only way IMHO to make it a happy hobby, else we are in for " once upon a time I use to program/build UAVs and fly" scenario.. Any one who learns the discipline and flies well to gain some experience should graduate to UAV , FPV etc. RTH makes it hard to impose such common sense. No experience needed, just Buy and fly concept is good for marketing and manufacturing side of the story for now but bad for every one else if such incidents continue unabated.
Jared I'm no fuddy duddy, I keenly embrace the new. I even have a profile on MySpace ;-)
I've no doubt that people will program hacks, but like yourself I believe people need at least some basic education before they are let loose with these flying buzz saws. If they have to trawl through the web to find a hack an inevitable side effect is they will pick up related information, and become more educated.
It's only that area of the market where people are just starting out, or buying these as toys that I feel needs addressing.
I can see this going the way of Pit Bikes with parents buying them for their kids and then taking their kids to the ER (or often worse in the case of pit bikes).
I see nothing wrong in starting people off with a few limitations until they are ready to move up the ladder.
I myself rode my FJR1300 down the autobahn topping 130mph on Saturday, You wouldn't put stabilizers on another FJR1300 and invite someone who'd never ridden a bike to keep up with me would you?
Less then two weeks ago somebody flew a parrot over a political meeting in Germany and landed it nearly at the feet of the President Angela Merkel. While she may have laughed it off, do you think her security people did?
We are getting noticed, and the more noobs and kids there are "flying" drones they can't control if the un-perfected autopilot fails (type "flyaway" in youtube), the more noticeable we get.
What is your objection to geo-fencing cities. Parks or land used by flying clubs could be ge-fenced into the system.
If people want to fly in the streets or their back yard, then let them turn off the GPS aides. At least then anyone flying in built up areas will have some modicum of ability.
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