CBS This Morning reports that NYPD is planning ways to disable drones. While this reports focuses on weaponized drones I think NYPDs actions effect anyone flying in NYC.
You need to be a member of diydrones to add comments!
CBS This Morning reports that NYPD is planning ways to disable drones. While this reports focuses on weaponized drones I think NYPDs actions effect anyone flying in NYC.
You need to be a member of diydrones to add comments!
Comments
better do flying some where else....
Just calm down. People here advocating regulation are just speaking from ignorance and general weak-mindedness.
The gov. has no authority to regulate drones in the sense they are talking. What I do on private property with my toys is my business. There is no legal precedent to require me to submit to any sort of regulation. This covers 98% of drone use.
If the gov. and/or the public wants to regulate drone activities in public spaces/lands then that is their option.
All this registration talk is just that, talk and a bunch of hot air. It would accomplish nothing.
It's highly doubtful that the gov. would even start a registration program if we DEMANDED it. All it would do is cost a lot of money for no benefit. There's already laws and a tort system in place that prevents or punishes almost every conceivable negative behavior.
The gov. already spies on us plenty. They don't need a registration system because if they want to track down a drone user they will have no problem. They already record every piece of mail/package delivered by the post office (see Mail Isolation Control and Tracking program) and everything that comes through customs. They don't need a warrant to get UPS/FedEx info either, just a subpoena, as they are "business records". Those carriers don't have a policy to hold out on LEOs, so generally they don't need even a scrap of paperwork to get your info.
So if someone did something bad they can look up who has drone equipment very easily. It's a near certainty that they already have lists in place, so if something rises above the level of your local cops pay grade you'll be tracked down instantly.
So there's no point in registration. All registration would be is a way to extract FEES from our hobby.
To the next person that proposes registration... Isn't it enough that the gov. tracks your mail, telephone calls, text messages, emails, etc., etc.? Educate yourself a little. This isn't tinfoil hat stuff, it's all information that has been publicly admitted to and documented in the press.
for all readers of this topic, did you really think that authorities will NEVER take action to pilots of mulitrotors ?
does not matter what method they finally derive to bring down the flying device.
they will devise numerous methods depending upon the band that the TX is using, or simply take steps to bring it down, literally.
i primarily enjoy flying rc helis at my flying club; we have own flying field.
i have also added 2 quads to my small fleet of helis, and their use is primarily fpv flying, within the confines of our flying clubs field.
i do not sympathize with any pilot of a multirotor who is caught flying in an area where they are not allowed to fly in; no tears from me, and no apology for my lack of empathy...
in fact, the easiest way to punish an operator flying in the wrong place, is to simply convict them with a heavy monetary fine.
a great comparison would be the marine fines for boats caught in a black buoyed perimeter, usually found at airports that are adjacent to harbors and coastal areas.
once you are within those boundaries, it is an automatic 10,000$ fine, no court time, no chance to argue in court.
simply fined 10K for being in a prohibited marine area.
that is what is needed to curb pilots who are basically being' ass with their multirotor.
this hobby costs money; take away the money, and you take away the means to continue the hobby.
i have absolutely nothing against enjoying multirotor flying... i do have reservations against those pilots who think
they can fly ANYWHERE, and think that they are not ENDANGERING others around them. let alone giving our hobby a bad rep.
if we can stop the "i-can-fly-anywhere-damn-the-authorities attitude", and get real about the results of our actions,
then the authorities do not have to take action to take down a multirotor. as it stands, it is within their jurisdiction to do so, and they will take full advantage of that luxury.
so, in the end, blaming the NYPD may be the wrong action here.
perhaps taking a more proactive stand and approach in how we conduct ourselves as rc pilots, that action may make us more of a solution, than being the problem in the piloting these cool flying vehicles.
billp
The worst thing about this whole media frenzy around "threats from above" and the like is that it skews the general public perception of what UAVs are and how much of a game changer they could be in so many industries.
Well said Ric
Guys, you have both been close to the saying the same thing all along.
No need for anymore animosity.
Well then I apologize if I misunderstood you of course.
You finally got my point that I have been hammering into this conversation for the last dozen posts.. This is the line that tells me you got what I have to say: "What that tells me is the community is immature- There are not enough people that understand these things need representation and a legal entity to ensure their/our rights are as well represented as they can be."
It's a free country it's fine to disagree. Obviously you don't see my point that's fine too. I've already outlined many times the solution I've seen work for other communities such as ours. I've presented examples such as the TRA and NAR for hobby rocketry and of course the AMA the ARRL is another good example.
This is what responsible people do to insure they get to enjoy their hobby.
What I truly do not understand is why the drone community seems to think they are immune. Especially if there is going to be some big deal about drones doing all this great stuff. Because if so they should be jumping right in there and getting with the program?
What that tells me is the community is immature- There are not enough people that understand these things need representation and a legal entity to ensure their/our rights are as well represented as they can be.
I here you say your good with the regulations then why wont the right people get together and get the ball rolling to do it?
The FAA did not form the AMA. Why would it form an entity to represent drones? It's not going too, that's up to us.
But yeah I'm getting tire of speaking out and I don't like the response I get when I do. I'm wasting my time here perhaps I can find a better place to do this. Perhaps I'm talking to the wrong people.
It is an amazing community I agree on that for sure.
Jeez, I can't even keep track of this thread any more. Rocketman, honestly I still don't agree. And I have justified already why I don't. Moreover I just don't see what solution you are forging here and if at all you have anything on your mind that you think will save your hobby other than lashing out on those who want to be constructive about this whole god damn thing. I have made my point in a constructive way and I have supplied the community with a solution. I highly recommend that you initiate a campaign of some sort in your capacity to do whatever you can to make folks understand your point of view. As far as I am concerned though, I don't see writing up more on this particular thread. So let's peace out and wish each other the best in the interest of salvaging this amazing community.
-
1
-
2
-
3
-
4
-
5
of 7 Next