Dangerous close-up with aircraft braking rules

Dangerous close-up with aircraft flying bellow 500 ft. He did few low passes over frozen lake. Nearest airport or airfield is 20 km away.

I think biggest problems with integrating drones into public airspace will be with small aviation. They don't want to buy expensive ADS-B equipment or similar things. Also other problem is paragliders and hot air balloons who don't even have radios...

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  • @Matucha123,

    such websites have been in operation for the last 25 years
    to track and geolocate cars, trucks semi real-time since Internet GPRS, 3G or LTE was not for free, so geolocation of a car on a map was updated at frequency to cut mobile Internet charges.

    Since today mobile Internet is flat rated (3G modems) you can geolocate every car on Internet maps.

    Such systems, for personal use are for free since code is open
    and I have developed on-line Google Maps based, car accidents and road incidents geolocation application.

    Car navigation operators buy smartphone geolocation data from mobile operators to offer Live Traffic service (real traffic speed on highways) updated frequently.

    Ok, car navigation is 2D flat maps based.
    In case of drones you create 3D navigation - DroneRadar24 system.

    If open to the public, I am not sure if welcome, since every single
    drone incident gets recorded and recorded mission can be every time
    requested by legal enforcement officers.

    I would like to offer such service to ultralights and small aircraft not equipped with transpoder.


    Let me know your opinion and interest.

    based.in: Nothing to see here!
  • @Sam Spade I heard that in our country someone is working on website where all drone pilots, paraglider pilots, hot air balloon pilots and others could mark their routes and area of operation. Also drones could send data live about position to website.

  • Note there is an exception to the 500ft rule, to take off and land, and there is no rule that says you must take off and land at an airport.. IE its perfectly legal to take off and land on your own property or property you have permission to use in most of the U.S.  I routinely take off and land on a dirt road on someone's private property.

    Also the way the rules are written the aircraft has right of way over the Drone at all times. Even if the airplane is doing something illegal it still has right of way over the drone, as absurd as it sounds if some one does a buzz job over a known drone flying field and hits a drone the drone was at fault.   You must watch for and avoid full size aircraft at all times.  If the only way to avoid hitting a full sized aircraft is to crash your $150K big camera ship with stereo RED cameras on it, you are required to do so.

    Most aircraft could withstand an impact with a Solo or DJI sized drone and survive, I'm not so sure about a helicopter.  To my mind the biggest risk for a Drone->Full size fatality is a helicopter, they can go anywhere, land anywhere and the rotor system is somewhat fragile.

  • Reminds me of this summer when I witnessed a UAV operating legally having to take evasive manoevers to dodge a CC-130 flying extremely low over a small town, outside of the airbase's controlled airspace about 10 miles away.

  • I use "football field" estimates. If it looks closer than a couple of football fields, it's too close. From an airplane, 500 feet looks REALLY close.

  • 500 feet from or 500 feet above ?

    @Jeff, how to you calculate 500 feet from as a pilot ?

  • It the US, the aircraft didn't break any rules. Not only that, but I don't see any near-miss issue here, at least from the video, as the aircraft was never close to the drone. As for landing on a 'closed' airport, this is legal in the US, as is practising touch-and-goes on such an airport.

    The incident does point out, however, that there needs to be some way to provide visual warning to a small aircraft that a particular area is being used for drone exercises. Rather than go through the BS of registration that the FAA is now screwing around with, they should be registering locations where high drone activity takes place so they can be marked on VFR charts.
  • We had few other close-up when glider entered closed airspace, also we almost launched model rocket to plane (it was instructional flight) which tried to land at closed aerodrome... We have huge problem that most light aviation pilots don't look at notams...

  • So this is Lithuania? I thought is was Canada. In the US and Canada, the pilot appeared to be operating completely within the rules.

  • Also, it's possible that the aircraft was an instructional flight practicing emergency loss of power procedures. Low flight in that case is also explicitly allowed in the CAA regs.

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