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    @Dean dont forget that as a UAV pilot you may legally fly FPV as pilot in command, and you MAY be granted permission to fly in controlled airspace. Both those activities are greatly assisted if you have BOTH r/c and real pilot experience.

    I recently spoke to some commercial pilots and they are damn nervous and against UAVs operating in their airspace. They are a bit less nervous but still against UAVs in their airspace even piloted by real pilots.
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    I started my ppl a few months ago, and flying a model and flying a real aircraft are completely different? I cant see the advantage? In fact having flown a real plane and having flown large petrol model aircraft I would say you are better off with someone that has flown models especially when it comes to orientation, you only have one perspective as a full scale pilot, you need to be able to cope with many to be a model flyer, I am trusted to fly large model WW2 aircraft weighing 30pounds + and with others flying 95pound and more doing in excess of 60mph near to residential areas and around 20 meters from a large crowd and all in formation. The onlt advantage you have is to do with some of the regulations, but once you know them, and there isn`t that many for a uav pilot, then the model flyer has the advantage?

     

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    My day job is playing with computers so I'm still pretty happy doing that right now.  Andy & Viv do the flying full time and Jason helps out when busy.  I help out on the weekends.  So for me its a side thing, but for two of my team they get to live the dream.

  • @Hai, so have have you "quit your day job" and are "Living the dream?"  Or is this still a side thing, not yet full-time?

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    I'll admit that I gain a lot of entertainment from working on my UAV but hardly think it fits the definition of a TOY.  With this group maybe you'd be better off making a distinction between those who may be buying some commercial off the shelf model aircraft from the local hobby shop, like your CX4 Quad and the Amateur UAV Operators serious about building their own system, like most of us here at DIYDrones. 

    According to Dictionary.com

    TOY: (noun)

    1. an objectoften a small representation of something familiar,as an animal or person, for children or others to play with;plaything.
    2. a thing or matter of little or no value or importance; a trifle.
    3. something that serves for or as if for diversion, rather thanfor serious pratical use.
    4. a small article of little value but prized as a souvenir or forsome other special reasontrinket; knickknack; bauble.
    5. something diminutive, especially in comparison with like objects.
  • I'm familiar with the 400ft rules in north america, nice to see they are consistent :)

    No argument about the cowboy/commercial comment giving a bad rep, that indeed is a problem, as is the crashing in populated areas, regardless of commercial or "toy".

    At any rate, looking forward to more of the videos/images. You are getting some nice shots with a separate photographer in control.

    Gnight, Bart.

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    @Bart.   I didn't write the article, some journalist did, I didn't get to proof it before they published it. 

    There are nothing wrong with toys for hobbyist, but if you are going to charge customers $$$ they, and the public deserve that the pilots are trained and operate to a commercial standard.

    I considered myself an untrained hobbyist over 6 months ago before I completed UAV training and was issued with my UAV licence.  The Operator Certificate is issued to a company that employs UAV licence holders. 

    In Australia UAV pilots have to undergo commercial UAV manufacturer training.  So I stand by the comment that "hobbyists" have not been trained to a commercial standard. 

    The Civil Aviation Safety Authority sent 3 inspectors to assess my company and they inspected the aircraft before issuing the company with its UAV Operator Certificate.

    @Andrew, bring on the competition.  The have been "hobbyists" operating in Perth, charging $350 per job, flying dangerously over people's backyards, crashing their aircraft in the suburbs because they ran out batteries?  I doubt that anyone would be impressed if a commercial pilot flying a Jumbo jet ran out of fuel?  Mistakes like that are amateur mistakes that are unacceptable for commercial operations.

    What monopoly are you taking about?  do you think its fair to me or customers that there are unlicenced illegal operators out there flying like cowboys, and giving this drone operators, amateur or professional a bad reputation?  I'm not against other companies getting licenced, but I am against hobbyists who are charging for aerial shoots, who don't have public liability insurance, UAV aircraft insurance, or have had to go through the training and licencing requirements that I have had to go through.

    Commercial operators must be licenced, hobbyists should stick to flying for fun and not trying to make a quick buck.

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    @Jack, you're funny.

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    @W. Joe Taylor.  There is probably a reason why the only approved UAV operators in Perth are the ones that have real pilots working for them, and the ones without real pilots are "still working towards gaining their operator certificate".

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    @W. Joe Taylor.  We didn't use any software, we just took the photos and our partners Pixelcase produced the 360.

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