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FAA Commercial Shutdown

Posted by Rory Paul on February 25, 2013 at 8:30am

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If anyone in the group has or knows of anyone that has been shutdown for commercial sUAS use would you please contact me.

roryp at volt aerial robotics dot com

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Rory

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  • LanMark February 25, 2013 at 1:02pm

    Thats why I have quad copters :)  So who would the neighbor call to report you?  Police?.. not sure they could site you on violating any of their laws since outside of privacy there likely isn't any that you would have broken by flying..  can't a untralight plane fly over the propery and not get in trouble?

    But like I was saying.. if you are respectible, professional and acknowlege safe practices when using the airspace above someone's property they own, then I really don't see how it would be an issue.

    Just don't be a jack @$$ and piss everyone off and give this hobby/profession a bad rap.  Do stuff that is innovative, helpful, and respectable.

  • Joshua Ott February 25, 2013 at 1:00pm

    Robert, The key is for all of us to "just do it". 

    We must, indeed, all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.

    -B. Franklin

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    Dwgsparky February 25, 2013 at 1:00pm
    Maybe the FAA won't have any money it the government can't sort out the budget
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    Dwgsparky February 25, 2013 at 12:57pm
    I also think that Joshua's post it as close to the truth as we are likely to get. The only problem is if you or your landowner has the right to use that airspace then does your Nieghbour have the right to keep you out of his airspace. My airplane is not good at vertical launches and landings!!
  • LanMark February 25, 2013 at 12:55pm

    not really.. everyone believes that the FAA will open up the skies in the next year or so.. 2015 likely... so by the time you got the equipment, got experience, and then got clients and then got a letter you likely would not have long to wait.. if at all.. since if you were to do it in a respectible fashion you might never get a letter..

    like if you were flying over someone farm doing analysis.. at what point would someone related to the FAA see you, report you, have it move up the ranks to actually producing a letter.. how would they even know who you were if they saw you..etc.

  • Harry February 25, 2013 at 12:52pm

    I've never received a letter and I once said on here that the FAA has told me(as in anybody) I cant use a UAV to make a buck.  I guess I assumed wrong, they just dont have the authority to broadly announce that no one can operate commercially without a COA or whatever.  It's very confusing, but "just do it" and do it safely seems the best way to proceed.  It'll be a long wait otherwise.  

  • Rob_Lefebvre February 25, 2013 at 12:50pm

    The problem with "just do it", is that you could make a significant investment in equipment, and then have to stop.

  • LanMark February 25, 2013 at 12:46pm

    I guess the easiest is to do what you are trying to do commercially and the worse that can happen is to get a warning.. since that would always happen first before any other thing... the FAA will send you a nice warning.  Sometimes it is easier to be allowed permission then to ask for permission.   I think it would be hard for them to feel the need to squish small start up companies trying to use UAVs for innovative new things.. as long as you were doing it in a very professional / respectable manner.   Often times laws are in response to something... congress is rarely proactive but most often reactive.  

    If you have permission from the owner of the property to fly for a commercial reason then I really can't see the FAA having a problem with it if you are doing it in a professional manner.

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    Rory Paul February 25, 2013 at 12:18pm

    Gary

    Thanks for the information.

  • Rob_Lefebvre February 25, 2013 at 12:10pm

    Joshua, that is the best, more clear and well thought out presentation of our property rights that I have heard.  Thanks.  That exactly sums it up.  Everybody agrees that land owners are allowed access to the airspace above their land, as far as they can reasonably use it.

    The issue here, is that, "what we can reasonably use" has changed very suddenly.

    The FAA has (justified) control over all man-carrying aircraft.  And you could only go in the air in an aircraft controlled by the FAA.  That's fine.  The issue here is that we are putting *other things* in the air, other than man-carrying, and the FAA doesn't have any legal jurisdiction over those since they are not man-carrying. (my completely amateur legal opinion).  

    Now, the FAA also has a mandate to try and keep the airspace safe for man-carrying aircraft, and that's fine.  This is why the simple solution is to say that UAV are allowed up to some certain altitude.  Because fact is, if you're flying an airplane at <400 feet, and you aren't near an airport, you probably have much bigger problems than the the little 10lb UAV flying in the area.

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