Full size Y6 Air-Scooter

3689545259?profile=originalI sat down and made a sketch after i got the idea of making a full-size Y6 with an APM2.5 and Arducopter firmware :)

3689545204?profile=originalA MC like seat and maybe an Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 running AndroPilot or Droidplanner on the dashboard. Or maybe even Mission Planner. Just make a mission and go for a ride :)

3689545308?profile=originalThis is the frame for the enignes and this will be covered by a Carbon fiber body.

I guess there will be some hard-core calculations for engine dimensions, weight and propellers. But imagine how cool it will be to ride this Air-Scooter in Stabilize or other modes!! Maybe this is an idea for a Kickstarter prosject??? I would love to start the building and testing of this future scooter! :-)

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  • Tommy, have you thought about hover craft version? Would be much safer, and would lower the risk of a flip. After all, you wouldn't want to fly it very high, would you? And it could do autonomous flights as well, and without the wheels it would have great advantage over autonomous cars, we all have seen them struggle with simple manouvers in Darpa's challange. Great concept, and in my opinion sooner or later it will be done.

  • Flying fast and low it's not a good idea. It will be also too hard to control. What you will do when there will be engine or any other failure on flight? It's oto dangerous. In that early concept you are not concentrated on reall problems, so it's too childish approach

    You can make it. Technically it's possible (not in your pure concept sketch of course), but better don't try to do this and don't even try to sell that idea on Kickstarter. 

  • @Gary:

    Well, as we learned, Boeing is building an optionally piloted helo based on the PX4 as a DARPA project... Optionally piloted is still man-carrying - sometimes.

    I like this project, but personally, I would go with a simple quad. And I would use hydraulic drive. A centrally mounted motor which drives a hydraulic pump which drives then Fenestron-type variable-pitch systems.

    Besides, when I was a kid (like 1 digit age), I remember there was a animated series called "He-Man and the Masters of the Universe". And that He-Man guy had a rideable quadcopter like that with Fenestron-type rotors ^^.

  • To sum up what Gary McCray said: What are you smokin'?

  • It's cool I like it.
    Don't listen to the haters:-)
    This guy didn't let anyone get in his way ;-)
    http://www.hover-bike.com/
    Need a test pilot :-)
  • Reminds me of the Aerofex hover bike (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ5Sn38NYGA). I think it could definitely work in ground-effect. Although, I wouldn't bet my life on an APM. Probably better to go with variable pitch props, controlled with mechanical linkages and powered by a single gas engine. The reason not to use multiple engines/motors, is that it would want to flip over if one of them died.

  • What do you suggest ?

    I was thinking Y6 because of as the less bulky way to build it...

  • Why would you use a y-6?

    I cant think of a less efficient way to do this.

  • takes some time until april first.

  • An intriguing, but incredibly impractical and totally dangerous undertaking.

    Even if you could find 6 of the the 10+ horsepower motors you would need for this to be able to fly, the idea of relying on the APM or PX4 as a man carrying fly by wire aircraft is ludicrously inappropriate.

    And as Adam says above, especially for an inherently unstable system where the CG is actually above the thrust roll centers, the dynamics at the high weight do not scale linearly from smaller copters, instability and difficulty of compensating increase rapidly.

    Air stays the same density and is compressible, and as a result aircraft respond very differently as mass and size increases.

    The reason that traditional helicopters are less problematic in this domain is that the mass of the helicopter hangs well under the rotor acting like a stabilizing pendulum.

    Brad Hughey designed a man carrying multicopter, but he had the props all overhead and the batteries and human well underneath.

    The Swiss human multicopter works only because it's motor/prop units are spread out over a very wide area, significantly decreasing the roll moment.

    And their proposed actually usable design looks a lot more like Brad Hughey's than the one they used to prove it could be done.

    Your design would have a very strong tendency to want to do a snap roll to inverted and stay there.

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