Game of Clones...........

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Just came across this Pixhawk clone, so thought I would share.

http://witespyquad.gostorego.com/flight-controllers/rtfhawk-2-4.html

Ready to Fly Quads is a reputable distributor, and I have made a few purchases from them already. They already have a clone of the APM2.x, that has been somewhat successful. Will this new clone be just as good. for under $100USD, might be work a try.

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  • @paul - witespy

    Can you open source your customer list ?

  • to Craig and others.

    why have you not posted here for a long time ? why are you sending me messages with no answers about adding an opt cert to mp? This should be an open conversion, and open opt system with clear guidelines. can you please tell us all the truth?

    I did not know all you cared about was money. I care about much more then just money, the money will follow..I tried to explain what I can do to help the protect. and I will do my very best

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    I am sorry if you feel I have been "complaining bitterly that Mission Planner does not support the hardware that you sell" but I fell this is not the truth. All I am trying to explain in a calming way that the open Mission Planner does not support ANYTHING(the users boards) but YOUR (3RD) boards. NO HOMEBREWS aloud! If the room smells, or there is a problem. I will say something, not to be selfish,but to raise attention to the situation so it can be fixed. Because I care, it is much easier to sweep it under the rug, and just say yes. Please listen to your heart and your devs and do the correct thing.

  • Thank You everyone for the kinds words. I am here for support and want everyone working for a common goal. Great things will happen. I have been working hard, no nothing for free. If you get one of the RTFHawks, you will see that. I am one-man-band, but I want to do all I can for the project.
    I want to put people in the air, plain and simple. The more people who are flying, the more the team wins. I can get boards in the hands of people who may never would have, and you never know what will happen, and they will give back. We are all devs when we fly new or old, anyone could have the next idea to solve the next problem, and the next. I am offering any of the main dev coders a boards to see and try. I hope they enjoy it, and see my QT is top notch. I might not be super-fast like 3DR but the quality is there.
    It is all about the amount the people in the air having fun. It comes back to the project and to make the code better and better every flight. Everyone looks at things and thinks differently. With all of these minds together, no one can beat it. It is about the future coders, the future flyers. We need to get the hardware in their hands without any stop-gaps. Then all of the code and donations will be rushing in. And if the hardware has QC problems, the people will know; they are smart, one can not pull the covers over there eyes. 
    Fly safe.
    paul ----witespy

  • @Guy

    How many planes, copters, spare parts, trips to the US to talk about APM do you think 3DR has given ? I think the answer its safe to say lots. When your coding complex stuff and try it for real after running via flite sims your going to crash planes and copters and that costs money.

    Your crying about community, but only when it suits you.

    Why dont you cry that no one has asked you to give free stuff to the guys doing the testing or development ? 

  • @Guy

    So what if 3dr "told" Michael to add the check. Its their code, one half gives free stuff to help the other half code and test. Its a symbiotic relationship.

    Regarding transparency, like i said before, perhaps if you joined in the other circles where they talk about code you might have been part of the discussions. But as long as you just sit on the outside waiting for more downloads with more features, its your fault for not participating  not theirs. You havent tried to put the effort where the actions adn decisions are made. Is it really their fault or yours ?

  • @Guy

    Exactly right. If they want to make good money then they need to close it up, put it in a shiny wrapper, and market it like DJI. If not, then the crying needs to stop. This isn't new stuff, some people make a living selling open-source electronics because it's something they enjoy. Big deal.

  • only if one wants to use 3DR branded components.. and if they go the way of DRM then I will expect I and a flood of others will be flying other manufacturers frames and flight controllers with APM etc.

    While tablets are indeed middly warm at present its kind of hard to write code and develop on one so I suspect that laptop based GCS will be part of the future for sometime. And its a shame that mission planner is the only fully featured GCS  Michael Oborne(not david as I mistated above) deserves great credit for his efforts in that direction,

    all the other MAVLink GCS  that are available pale in comparison at present.

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  • Guy:

    Violation of trust.: Yes.  That's a fine cool headed assessment you've done. And the least damaging imho, what with MissionPlanner's GPL,  that could ever happen.

  • @hotel I agree the license wording is what matters. Given we aren't lawyers, I was simply pointing out some articles and a FAQ by the GNU about what they claim their license means. Given that the DRM and "tivoivation" aspects of GPLv3 were a heavily debated aspect I suspect that's likely to be fairly on point.

    I'd love to see any court cases or analysis of the license that suggests otherwise. As I emphasized above I don't condone the DRM stuff. 

  • @Guy

    Im just speaking for myself here, nobody else. But the guys and girls who contribute to the codebase, spend a lot of time effort and more. They make new commits all the time without running them by the community. Its imho asking a bit much that they stop and think of all the implications. Every feature or change is going to affect someone, even it just means re-tuning.

    Its their code, to do as they wish. I cant help wonder why so many are dishonest and are just whinging because they want everything to their advantage. They like OS because its free and brings great software and then they cry when some part changes that they dont like. If you dont like the software how it works and so on, get involved then your vote will count.

    Witespy and sellers like that want everything to be free so they can sell clones, but does he share his list of customers with 3DR. He contributes nothing to the community but wants everything to his advantage. Has he ever given free hardware to the devs to help them out, to cover their crashes when testing new versions of APM ?

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