Hey all, I am normally more of a reader on here than a writer but I can see that we Have a Problem here with drone (hate that word) safety and reckless pilots.

I had an idea to create a website purely informational on drone safety, the do's and dont's. No spam, no blog posts, just the info that people need to know.

  - Don't fly over people

  - Don't fly over 400ft.

  - ......

  You get the idea.

Fact is there are too many people buying ready to fly quads that have no idea on the risks, or are just reckless pilots. Just look at some of the recent stories on here, the FAA ban on FPV........

In my opinion there is enough man power on here to build a website where people can go and check the general rules and Laws in there country and get flying responsibly.

We could get in contact with some of the big manufacturers and ask them to put a link on their purchase page to get the info where it needs to be.

This needs to be a group effort, we need to get the ball back in our court. I have built basic websites before but im not the best, at the moment it is just an idea.

Who's interested and how can you help?

So there it is, my idea. let see if we can get the ball rolling.

____Edit: 14.07.2014

Main Rules to be On webite:

1. Dont fly over Crowded or urban areas

2. Allways fly within visual line of sight (VLOS)

3. Dont Fly above 400ft. or 120Meters, normal air traffic starts at 500ft.

4. Dont fly near airports, flying withing 8km or 5 miles of an airport is extremely dangerous.

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Comment by Jethro Hazelhurst on July 13, 2014 at 8:29am

Nice, I like the idea for sure. That and some serious checklists and maintenance schedules. If we set the precedent very high then we will have a better chance of surviving any regulations. I particularly see potential for maintenance schedules with websites like droneshare. It should ideally be an online interactive procedural list of key parts that need a regular check.

Preflight

1 – Charge your batteries

a - Take your Lipo Battery and put it inside of the lipo safe charger

b – Plug in the charger to the wall port

c – Take the smaller battery out of the back of your transmitter.

2 – Perform a visual inspection of the Drone.

a – Make sure all screws are secure

b – Check all cables are properly connected

c – Check that the motors are secure to their mounts and spin freely

d – Make sure the frame is structurally sound, no stress cracks.

3 - Make sure the camera and gimbal is securely attached

Make sure camera has battery

3 – Perform a compass calibration

4 – Chose an open space that is clear of people and passersby and on level ground (this will be your RTL location)!

A - Stay at least 2 miles away from any airports.

B – Do not fly over built up areas

C – Do not fly over water

5 – Make certain that the wind is not above xm/s

6 – Remove the drone hood and unfold the arms until they click into their x-position.

4 – Attach the propellers making certain that they are correctly oriented

5 – Switch on the Transmitter

a - Make sure all switches are in the 'up' position and that throttle is down

b – Check the battery voltage displayed on the screen and make sure there is enough power.

c – Make sure that the transmitter is in stabilize mode.

D – Make certain that the transmitter aerial is perpendicular to the drone

5 – attach the battery tightly to the drone using velcro straps

6 – Plug the battery to the drone using XT60 connectors, make sure the connection is secure.

7 – Wait for GPS lock (blue flashing light)

8 – Press the arm button on the top of the drone until the led is solid red

8 – Orient the drone so that the forward direction is facing into any wind

9 – Turn on camera recording

8 – Take 10 paces back so that you are facing the back of the drone and into any wind.

8 -

8 – Wait for prearm safety checks

6 – Hold the throttle stick down and right for 5 seconds until you hear a long tone indicating the system is armed. The Props should start spinning.

7 – Quickly push the throttle up to just above half way so that the drone reached 2 meters in the air so that the drone climbs above the prop wash

Landing

1 – Lower your throttle so that the drone gently lands

2 – As soon as the landing gear touches the ground move throttle to minimum immediately.

3 – Hold the throttle stick down and to the left until you hear two beeps indicating the drone is disarmed.

4 – Approach the drone and press the arming switch until it starts flashing.

5 – Unplug your battery from the drone.

6 – Switch off the transmitter.

Here is my very rough draft, not even numbered correctly!

Comment by Jesse on July 13, 2014 at 9:26am

Most of the major safety issues truly do revolve around what should be common sense... don't fly over populated areas, etc. If someone doesn't posses such a basic set of common sense, they're probably not going to seek out a website to learn about it.

Comment by R. D. Starwalt on July 13, 2014 at 9:54am

John and I have discussed safety and procedural practices often when trying to frame up ideas for the dronespeak website.

We have a situation now that, in my mind, is comparable to the CB craze of the 1970's. Cheap technology put in the hands of the populace, motivated by the need for a new visual experience, over-lorded by government restrictions.

  • Blade, DJI, others vs Regency, Cobra, others = cheap technology
  • GoPro and HD Big Screen TV vs 'Free' talking to locate Law Enforcement (55 mph speed limit) = experience
  • FAA interpretations vs FCC futile control of CB bands = government heavy handed practice

Jesse makes a good point. A rebuttal is that unlike radio talk, a poorly controlled aircraft can cause damage to property and persons.

-=Doug

Comment by UAS_Pilot on July 13, 2014 at 10:20am
I know you can't blame just one person/company, but I don't like the marketing that DJI uses to sell the Phantoms. If you look at most of the incidents that break the rules it is almost always a DJI Phantom with a new pilot. DJI use's the, it's so easy to fly a baby could do it mentality. They say nothing about joining AMA or here are the common sense rules that will allow us to continue with our hobby. Manufactures need to take some responsibility in some of these incidents, and they should do something to ensure that the R/C market will continue.
As a community we also have the responsibility to ensure that when we get a friend to join our hobby that they know the rules and help teach them good flying habits...

I know some may not agree, but I like everyone else here has one goal... Safety and the continuation of our fantastic hobby. As I tell my wife there are worse thing we could be doing....
Comment by Gary McCray on July 13, 2014 at 1:09pm

I agree that this is a major issue that has so far been handled inadequately by everybody, (myself included).

Luke's idea of a website that has all the info on local regulations is certainly a good one.

And Jethro's concept for an online interactive checklist (perhaps customizable for individual circumstance) is also excellent.

I would be more than happy to donate some pages on my drones - quadcopters - multicopters are fun web sites to help with this.

Best Regards,

Gary

Comment by Sam Smock on July 13, 2014 at 5:09pm
It's not perfect, but domains are getting hard to find. I've got all thing squad copter.com

I've been wondering what to do with it, but that may not be the best. Something Thai contains drone would get normal people's attention.
Comment by Steve Pharis on July 13, 2014 at 7:16pm
The people that need to find and read a site like that won't. The information is already out there, they either ignore it or don't care enough to look for it.
Comment by Rick on July 13, 2014 at 9:28pm

Unfortunately I agree with Steve on this...most people go to their local hobby store looking around wind up buying the new cool thing out there and don't know how to fly it. Why should they I mean it has GPS and position lock all they have to do is plug the battery in and push that left stick forward and off they go if they get into trouble all they have to do is flick a switch and then all of a sudden it flies away and they jiggle those switches and it keeps going going gone. Guess what they filmed it from the ground and now they post it to YT and there is another fly away video...That is when they go and look for the information they should have looked for in the first place before ever buying one. I think everyone should have to fly a manual mode aircraft first! This will either stop them from advancing in the sport due to expensive repairs or make them really good pilots. For two years I have flown a kk2.0 board and have never used GPS RTL or any of the sorts. When I go to a LHS or flying field and fly with them the first time they are always like holy crap that is awesome...how do you do that do you have GPS RTL no nothing really wow you have such good control and you can do figure eights and you have very good orientation of the aircraft....I always respond that is what flying for two years gets you when you don't have high dollar flight control boards! You actually learn to fly the platform! You are not pressing a few buttons and a mouse click on your computer and then flicking a switch at the field and watch it do its thing! I am the master of my aircraft not the flight controller!

By all means build put up a website and put a visitor tracker on it and see how many hits it gets...the first month doesn't count cause all of us will be going to it......

Comment by Jethro Hazelhurst on July 14, 2014 at 1:16am

We need to have a functional and practical website (perhaps integrated with droneshare or even better, inside the missionplanner or APM planner software apps).

In fact why not have a screen appear before the missionplanner allows you to arm that pops up with a safety checklist briefing that is mandatory?

I know that I would make good use of the checklist and maintenance schedule. If this can become a part of the DIY Drones culture then we have a better chance of surviving any regulations that will kill off the phantom crowd and wannabes...

Comment by luke cooke on July 14, 2014 at 3:42am

Wow I check back after one day and this post has gone to number one on the top content list, That is what I was hoping for!!!

Some good input from you guys, I think that the general idea that this information should be common sence is correct, however what for some people is common sence isnt for others. I belive if people where corrctly informed they would maybe think twice before going and flying over a festival or other crowded areas.

Maintenance is also a very inportant factor because poor maintenance can lead to crashes, but in my opinion that is not the issue we need to be attacking, we need to concentrate on getting this common sence information into the hands of the inexperienced users. You guys are correct in saying that these kind of people aren't going to activly search for this information, I think the only way to do this is to build up a big link base with the Shops and manufacturers leading people to the information.

Adding the Preflight check into mission planner is also a good idea, but then we are only aiming at the people that use mission planner, this project should be more widespread it needs to get to ALL "drone" users. And also most people that use mission planner have built a copter of some sort and put the board in there themselves, they tend to have more of an understanding on the subject. (Although this is also changing slowly with hobbyking)

Also the maintenaince/preflight that Jethro H. Posted is very good, however most people (myself included) dont normaly go though a list like that before flying, they just plug in the batterys, wait for the gps lock then arm and fly. In my opinion this is to much information in one go.

The website should not be overwhelming or people will just leave, it should maybe be one main page that people can read and maybe print with a list of (common sence) rules, It could also have a section regarding exact laws on flying, radio frequencies ect... in different countrys.

I will be honest with you guys, I am not going to be able to do this on my own and to be frank I dont want to, this is OUR problem and we need to tackle it as a team. I am sure from peoples responce that there are enough people willing to help, but are propably unsure as to how????

Here is a list of things that we need to clarify before work can start:

1. I know what is common sence to me, but what is your's ? What rules and information should we include exacly? where are we going to get this information and know that it is correct?

2. We need a name for the website, it should be short and easy to remember?

3.We are going to need an eye catching logo for the shops and manufacturers to put on there websites, Anyone good with graphical design out there?

4.Where are we going to build the website, I was thinking a simple Wordpress site as More than one person could have the admin rights and work on it, but if you have a better idea let me know!

5. Someone who is good at spelling to check the website text.

6. We could also make a video on the issue, however I wouldnt know where to start on that one, Ideas??

English is my mother language but i also speak french and german so I could also translate the site into them languages too.

Also If there are any distributors, shops, manufacturers and you want to help us by sharing a link when it is up and running, Please leave a comment and we can keep that in mind.

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