Hey all, I am normally more of a reader on here than a writer but I can see that we Have a Problem here with drone (hate that word) safety and reckless pilots.

I had an idea to create a website purely informational on drone safety, the do's and dont's. No spam, no blog posts, just the info that people need to know.

  - Don't fly over people

  - Don't fly over 400ft.

  - ......

  You get the idea.

Fact is there are too many people buying ready to fly quads that have no idea on the risks, or are just reckless pilots. Just look at some of the recent stories on here, the FAA ban on FPV........

In my opinion there is enough man power on here to build a website where people can go and check the general rules and Laws in there country and get flying responsibly.

We could get in contact with some of the big manufacturers and ask them to put a link on their purchase page to get the info where it needs to be.

This needs to be a group effort, we need to get the ball back in our court. I have built basic websites before but im not the best, at the moment it is just an idea.

Who's interested and how can you help?

So there it is, my idea. let see if we can get the ball rolling.

____Edit: 14.07.2014

Main Rules to be On webite:

1. Dont fly over Crowded or urban areas

2. Allways fly within visual line of sight (VLOS)

3. Dont Fly above 400ft. or 120Meters, normal air traffic starts at 500ft.

4. Dont fly near airports, flying withing 8km or 5 miles of an airport is extremely dangerous.

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Comment by luke cooke on July 14, 2014 at 12:43pm

Ben, why wouldnt you want to use carbon blades? I use them on my Octo and would say that it is safer with them on, I have had plastic props break mid flight and its not nice. Carbon is very strong and highly unlikly to break. They also spin with less vibrations making for a more stable flight.

On a side note, If your copter is coming down with motors spinning it doesnt matter if you have plasic props or carbon, its gonna hurt.

Comment by Ben Norris on July 14, 2014 at 1:09pm

@luke not true, plastic is more flexible so it absorbs more vibrations while carbon transmits them. If your props are breaking mid flight then you are not using the right type for your weight/power.  Compare the injuries of carbon to plastic blades, it is a massive difference.  Plastic blades hurt, carbon blades cut to the bone.  Carbon are significantly more dangerous with very little benefit, people are mostly just buying them for coolness, not for any measured improvement.

Comment by sixtimesseven on July 14, 2014 at 1:37pm

I mostly agree with Ben on not using carbon props but would like to throw in wooden props (eg. xoar) as an alternative. 

light? yes! vibration absorbing? check. cool looking? absolutely! ;-)

Comment by Gary McCray on July 14, 2014 at 2:16pm

Definitely carbon fiber blades can be a liability, they are often literally razor sharp and are strong enough to slice you to ribbons.

There have been quite a few serious injuries that have resulted from carbon fiber blades most of which would have been a lot less serious with plastic props.

Definitely beginners and where possible with smaller copters even experienced people should avoid carbon fiber propped multicopters whenever they can, they hugely increase your liability for seriously injuring yourself or others that might be around.

On the other hand in the hands of an experienced pilot with a known and well tested craft, they can be really necessary for delivering pro level capabilities and on bigger they copters they are pretty much mandatory.

I normally use DJI carbon filled plastic props which are stiff and stronger than ordinary plastic props but they do not have a "sharp" blade edge and will break if they hit anything (yourself included).

With carbon fiber props you really do have an extremely sharp flying lawn mower.

And some wood props are safer than carbon fiber ones, others are not because the way the splinter apart can cause more trouble than it solves.

Comment by Rob_Lefebvre on July 14, 2014 at 2:18pm

Razor sharp indeed.  Anybody who thinks that multirotors are that much safer than helicopters, should look at this:

Look at how those corn stalks were cut.  You'd think a machete was used.  And this is not a big machine with only 13" props.

Comment by Quadzimodo on July 14, 2014 at 3:14pm

I don't think there is any question carbon fibre is more hazardous than plastic.

Wood, on the other hand, I am not so sure about.  Back in the days of cannon battles on the high seas, more deaths were caused by infections resulting from splintered wood penetrating the skin than succumbed to injuries sustained by direct cannon fire.  I realise that the timber of a propeller is less problematic than that of a century old pre-victorian battleship and that modern medicine and antibiotics make a hell of a big difference, but wood is perhaps still more problematic than plastic for reasons along these lines.

The safest option is soft mounted propellers, which is perfect for smaller multirotors.

Comment by sixtimesseven on July 14, 2014 at 3:23pm

@quadzimodo: The safest option is not getting into the way of your props ;-)

I like your safe mounted props which is great for small copters, however for anything over 12" I had little luck with APC in term of vibration + They are much heavier.

Comment by Alex Wong on July 15, 2014 at 12:51am

Its a great idea but as mentioned above the info is out there. If we out ourselves out there on a web page claiming to have all of the rules and regulations for various countries I think we would run into trouble. Maybe building on the Drones Are Fun website could be a good start.

Check out this basic info brochure from CASA 'Flying with control? - Get to know the rules' brochure

It is very clear and easy to follow.

These are some of the CASA links in Australia.

How to become a safe RPA operator

RPA background

Model aircraft and RPA

As you can see there is a lot of detailed information. The problem is that the problem operators wont read it or even try to follow it.

Unfortunately I think we have already lost the battle to have the hobby accepted by the general public and we should be focusing on creating a community that is known to be responsible and capable of being part of the solution to the various issues surrounding UAV's. 

I want to write more but I feel a bit brain faded. I just sat the CASA Private Pilot Theory exam as part of getting a commercial RPAS licence. I passed and now onto the next stage, getting manuals and operating paperwork together. I must say that the study and info has been a great help to me but I can understand that a kid buying a quad from a hobby shop wont and doesn't need to do this.

Comment by luke cooke on July 15, 2014 at 1:32am

I know the info is out there but it is mostly spead across the internet and in some cases information is different on differnet sites. The idea behind this is to make a site and get its linked directly from the websites and people that are selling the copters.

I'm sure between us here we will be able to get together a website/pdf or something within the next few weeks, After that it is going to be a case of getting it where it needs to be, thats going to be the hard part.

Im sure if the FAA/CAA can see that we are trying to take action to inform people of the dangers they will be more understanding when the eventually make their rule book.

Regarding the carbon props, Maybe I will have to relook at this. I have them on my big Octo, flying weight of almost 6kg with DSLR camera spinning 14" carbon props(direct mounted). I just can imagine Putting anything else on after having Plastic slowfly props break on my 450 size quad. But that is a different subject, lets try and keep on track ;).

Comment by Patrick Meier on July 15, 2014 at 6:05am

Hi All,

The Humanitarian UAV Network has developed a Code of Conduct and Operational Check-List for the purpose of increasing safety. More here:

http://uaviators.org/docs

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