Remember that RC Fullsize mid air last year? FAA report out

They seem to point the finger at the RC pilot, although I think both pilots were showboating. That is unless smoke on and stay down is a standard go around in the USA

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Comment by Ritchie on March 29, 2011 at 2:39pm

I think both were clearly in the wrong.

If the pilot cannot see a 15ft obstacle (whether its a tree or an RC plane) he/she should not be flying.

If any pilot (RC or real) is going to use a runway they should make sure they are clear to do so.

This happened thanks to bad organisation only, neither pilot was the direct cause they were both in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Comment by Ryan on March 29, 2011 at 3:29pm
RC guy is at fault. I maintain that decision from the start
Comment by Gary Evans on March 29, 2011 at 4:12pm
I cannot fault either pilot since I was not there and the evidence is heresay. What I can determine for sure is that models and full sized airplanes have no business on the same airport. They have differant rules, there is no such thing as an Air Boss in real aviation and how well this worked out is self evident.    

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Comment by Randy on March 29, 2011 at 4:46pm
Nah, from reading the report it's pretty clear it's the RC pilot's fault.  RC planes have to yield to manned aircraft and he should have had a spotter who was actually looking around instead of just looking at the RC plane.

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Comment by Jason Short on March 29, 2011 at 6:05pm

He had time to cut the throttle and deal with a simple broken wing. He chose to try and power out to save his model. Wrong choice.

 

I've had kids run up to my copter many times at the park. I always cut the throttle and bring it down as fast as possible if I see them coming.

Comment by T.D. Gonzales on March 29, 2011 at 8:02pm
Smoke to increase his visibility for a go around...

Both pilots could have avoided the collision luckily no one got hurt. I like how the guy with the camera was acting like Jerry Springer...
Comment by Ryan on March 29, 2011 at 8:23pm

 

1. "Smoke to increase vis." that's a load of BS - he was showing off but noone can prove it

2. RC guy was an idiot but it's not all his fault because he was counting the spotter to help him out, however when the * hit the fan and lawyers involved, the spotter was discounted as having no qualification, etc...


I think everyone knows and or can guess what happen here so I don't need to say anymore but this is a perfect case of how everyone covering their arses and if you slow, you loose. So take this as a lesson for all you FPV, etc...you can inteprete the rule or argue the rules anyway you want, but when the * does happen to hit the fan then do you think you can cover your arse quick/good enough?


Uhh, dude why are you flying copter in the park where there are ppl and kids? LOL

Comment by Duane Brocious on March 29, 2011 at 8:54pm

The word "cluster" comes to mind.

I guess this is why the AMA should be in charge of recreational sUAS in the USA (???)

Good reason for the FAA to ban everything but under 2 pound model aircraft from withing 3 miles of an airport.

I guess I agree with the FAA on this. Flying model airplanes at an airport is like playing with RC cars on the Freeway.... obviously dumb thing to do. Guess where many (far too many IMHO) RC airplane clubs are ? Yup.

 

If there is anyone in the parks, lots or fields where I fly, I don't fly. If anyone shows up, I land (even crash) ASAP. Their safety is paramount.

Comment by Ryan on March 29, 2011 at 10:03pm

No f'ing way the AMA will ever be (or should be) in charge of SUAS!!!


A lot of time ppl get "permission" to fly RC at a privately own or small country town airport. The problem is often time the person who give "permission" to fly does not have the authority to grant it. So when something like that happen it's still the FAA that has to go and untaggle the "cluster"


So fly your model airplanes at a sanction model airplane place and if you have a "fubar", you'd be covered. Fly them at a park/random field is all good but if you just happen to drill one it right where Mary Jane and her kids were walking then I don't think "Well you honor, at the time I thought it was clear" is going to stand in court.


Say what if you fly your FPV beyond VLOS and crash into someone house and the lipo caught on fire and burn the house down or worst, I doubt that anyone will drive over there and put your hand up and say: I'm really sorry, but that's my plane!" It will probably be more like "oh crap, quick get in the car and get the hell outta here!" so that's why the FAA has their rules with SUAS and the AMA doesn't want anything to do with it.

Comment by Duane Brocious on March 29, 2011 at 10:51pm

If the AMA get what they requested in the ARC sUAS reccomendations to the FAA and the passed Senate amendment to the Senate passed FAA reauthorization bill. All recreational sUAS flying will be only by AMA members. IE: Join the AMA or quit the hobby!

This has been the AMA's goal since 2009. In as much as nobody is trying to stop them, they just might get their way. Yes, this is for real.

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