DIYDrones Rants and Raves

Ok guys, with all the people waiting on APM2 and all the exciting new alpha and beta releases of APM firmware coming, I think many people are starting to chomp at their bits, a little.  

To that end, I've opened up this discussion for all those with complaints.  As I've joined the Dev Team, and not at a productive stage yet, I'll monitor this discussion, and relay things to the others on the Dev Team.

These could be both hardware or software, or just general rants and raves!

Hope everyone takes advantage of this!  Maybe we'll all learn some things in the process.

Just wanted to add this response from Chris Anderson:

Please just contact sales@3drobotics.com and inquire about the status of your order. They are not necessarily shipped in order. For example, the unsoldered ones are shipped first, because they're faster to put together. Then soldered with GPS, then soldered without GPS (or maybe those two in reverse order, I can't remember). There are approximately 50 going out each day and the team tells me that the backlog should be over by Mon/Tues of next week. 

I agree, please use this discussion for Rants and Raves.  Order issues should be directed to 3DR directly.  I think you will get better response there.

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  • Hi, in other systems adding a ground plane - a piece of tin sheet - under the GPS rx has improved reception significantly. Eg. MikroKopter "GPS shield". I would give that a try. Regards, Søren
  • Is the DIYDrones store website down? 

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    I have gone back to using my KK board as I had very little success with the APM2.0 and my Tricopter.. I had high hopes but it has crashed once and I have just about saved it from crashing tens of times. Shame

  • Here's 3DR Twitter feed for last few days:

    3DRobotics Last APM2 order out today 19782yesterday · reply · retweet · favorite

    3DRobotics Jordi on the cover of the San Diego Business Journalpic.twitter.com/alUHcvGW3 days ago · reply · retweet · favorite

    3DRobotics Last APM2.0 order out today 197465 days ago · reply · retweet · favorite

    3DRobotics First 3DR box shipped :)pic.twitter.com/EbXgK3R15 days ago · reply · retweet · favorite

    skelly .@3drobotics boxes!pic.twitter.com/OVIFPWb0

    If they were at 19782 yesterday, 19746 5 days ago, that's 7.2 orders per day.  By my estimate, they will get to 22179 in about 332 days.  Of course there was a weekend in between.  Btw, I think they are relying on people to follow their twitter feed rather than doing individual e-mails.



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    Rant: Cloning the repository from .git is 400+MB!!, SURELY it can be reduced in size???

  • 100KM

    I'm SO sick and tired of every new arducopter software release breaking things that I need and that used to work just fine.  Now my mission planner won't connect to ACM anymore (see issue 522 )

    Just HAD to get that off my chest :(


  • Just asking....if you post, and you make a point that puts the moderator in a difficult position will your post appear.

    I only asked if the originator had a commercial interest in the outcome of the post and my post vanished and never appeared yet I still remained on the follow emails.

    Maybe coincidence or a bug???

    I did get a "your post must be approved prior to being posted"  (or something to that effect...very odd)

    That's my rant.

  • Ok....so based on available parts in stock, how many APM2.0 boards can be produced as from today please ??

  • Hi all,

     

       Please let me begin by saying that I immensely value the individual contributions of the developers and the following criticism should not take away from the time and effort they have elected to give.

       With that said, I believe the latest happenings in firmware development and release have entered the realms of the absurd.

       How is it, that 2.3 was touted as a "final release"? After following the running commentary on various issues with 2.3 I chose not to use it and to wait instead for 2.3.1 only to find out that the developers have decided to upgrade 2.3.1 to 2.4 BETA and to release it to the wider public for testing - say again? This leads me to believe that there have been significant  changes to the code yet again, and not just fixes to the extant bugs.

       This approach may work for the people who have far more time, money and knowledge than the "average" user. I believe the average user accepts that they will have to do a fair amount of improvements on their hardware and spend time tuning their values to get good results. The approach that I have outlined in the first couple of paragraphs simply makes this impossible. For me the ideal is that once we get to a final release, I can then concentrate on making my side of things work the best it can, and after a thorough flight testing progress, actually start using the 'copter (photography, etc). This is currently made impossible by the progression I have outlined in the first paragraphs. Things simply move to fast and too chaotically for someone with maybe 10 hours a week to spare.

       Only once a fully (I know that's a relative word) debugged final version is available, should development move to include new features and improve on the finer points of the previous well performing version. 

     

       To conclude: I have been getting encouraging results with 2.2bX but I dare not start my whole tuning and testing program all over again, until I have some sort of confidence in a "final" release. I simply do not posses the means to put blind confidence into yet another release that is being touted as the "best one yet". I am approaching a point where I will seriously consider just biting the bullet, abandoning Arducopter and looking for another platform.

    Thanks,

     

    Hans 

     

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    Ordered my APM2 5 Dec 2011, just over 10 weeks ago, but I have now had confirmation of shipping however shipping always seems to take a long time from DiyDrones, so I might get mine around 13-14 weeks after ordering.

    Patience apparently is a virtue...

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