T3

Solo specs and ecalc

Hi all,

I am interested in purchasing a Solo and decided to have a closer look at the Solo specs. Apart from all smart things the most interesting values are:

  • Motors: 880 kV
  • Propellers: 10″ diameter 4.5″ pitch
  • Flight battery: Lithium polymer 5200 mAh 14.8 Vdc
  • Flight time: 25 minutes; 20 minutes with payload*
  • Max speed: 55 mph (89 km/h)
  • Weight: 3.3 lbs. (1.5 kg) / 3.9 lbs. (1.8 kg) with GoPro® and Solo Gimbal

I tried to replicate this setup in ecalc. But no matter what motor I selected, I always end up with around 15 min of hover flight time (at 1.8 kg) and a max speed of around 60km/h. I don’t believe in magic and I am pretty sure the 3DR specs are correct.
But even if ecalc is relatively conservative these are big differences. I am wondering where this discrepancy (+-25% in flight time and 40% in max speed) comes from. Any idea?

Best regards,
Thorsten

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  • Has anyone tried to roll their own batteries for this?  5200 mAh seems pretty small compared to what's available on the market.

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    • 3D Robotics

      Fly mode is governed in software. 55 mph is possible in Fly Manual or Stabilize in absolutely ideal conditions (perhaps with a bit of a tailwind) with this stock PixHawk params, but can be achieved more consistently by increasing current limit, lean angles, and perhaps a few others. I had a lot of fun playing around with these while minimizing time to complete an autonomous course I set up.

      Due to the lift generated by the rotors and body, flight time is maximized at 6 m/s. With the hard mount, our flight ops team has seen just over 20 minutes flight time at hover, just under 25 minutes at 6 m/s, and just over 20 minutes at 12 m/s. I don't have the data for flight time with the gimbal, but it is highly likely that the 20 minute figure came at 6 m/s in calm conditions at sea level on a cold day.

    • Daniel,

      Do you have a representation on the speed slider that equates to those settings?

      Or was 6m/s programmed as a limit somehow to get those ratings?

    • 3D Robotics

      Good question. I don't, but I should. If I were forced to spit out some numbers, I would say turtle is 2.5 m/s and rabbit is 15 m/s.

      To do these experiments yourself, you can change WP_NAV_SPEED and/or LOIT_SPEED in Tower and see how that affects your fight time. I would love to see some independent results up here so we can learn about flight times in different conditions.

  • T3

    Thanks for all your replies!

    In summary 20min seem to be possible under optimal conditions. This is good! 45mph (72km/h) as reported by Kelly is pretty fast as well.

    Maybe 15min of flight time is more realistic to have some buffer. I had a look at the last T3 challenge results and the average max speed seems to be around 50km/h. This is closer to what ecalc is guesstimating. This for sure all depends pretty much on the wind conditions. 

  • I haven't gotten anywhere close to 55mph with my Solo. The highest speed I've seen is 45mph, and it was having a hard time maintaining altitude at that speed. The flight time I'm getting (with camera, no gimbal) is closer to 15 minutes hover.

  • 15 minutes seems to be about what everyone is experiencing for a normal flight.

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