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Its two week day



Thats the manned solar impulse which is due to take off again on another trial flight. Don't forget that the Zephyr will pass the two weeks in the air point later today, Friday the 23rd of July. It does not take a rocket scientist to work out that the man is probably the weak link in the Solar Impulse!!

No offence meant to a very skilled pilot no doubt, but when you here them saying things like engine up 3 RPM and down 3 RPM you realise an autopilot should be handling that sort of thing... http://www.solarimpulse.com/nightFlights/

You have to keep him alive and happy as well. I could'nt help looking at the sponsors watch and his flying helmet and thinking, crumbs theres some amount of payload just there!

Maybe I am just very jealous and would love to be flying that airframe, one thing the man does bring to the party is the ability to get the thing flown around the world and beat regulations for UAS.

Good luck to them, I bet there are spin-offs into the UAS world.

Now those that can really ought to raise a glass to our UAS team, the chaps from QinetiQ when the appointed hour comes and hope that it has a safe landing.

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  • Moderator
    UAS or Robots are force multipliers. They allow us to do a little bit more.
  • But "remote manipulators" in the oil spill are still being run by real human beings "in need of a 10 minute break every 60 minutes, a full nights sleep, and 3 meals a day, etc...", they're just not on the sea bottom (I live in New Orleans and have been on the rigs and seen these in operation), just as the drones flying in Afghanistan are flown remotely by human pilots. I'm not saying many operations wouldn't be more efficient without human operators involved (like long flights) but until we develop computers that are small enough and can handle all of the "fuzzy" logic of the human brain I think there will still be a place for human pilots and operators. The tools are just extensions of ourselves.
  • @Kevin, in difficult environments, It's hard to make the argument that people are not more costly and less effective than remote-manipulation;
    Take the recent oil spill - the bloviating about how this is deep, and you can't send "people" down there, when you realize that the differential pressures are in thousands of PSI, one should realize that if people were to be down there, they would just be manipulating very similar heavy equipment, but they would then be at risk, in need of a 10 minute break every 60 minutes, a full nights sleep, and 3 meals a day, etc...
    I simply doubt that remote manipulators are inferior to "real people" in these situations.
    We should embrace our remotely operated overlords.
  • @Kevin,
    True, this flight was only 14 days, and people have survived worse; but those 14 days were only to establish the ability to stay aloft - indefinitely. At indefinite deployment, the weight of food alone is a non-starter (never mind the mind-numbing existence).
  • Moderator
    Yeah they are needed right now to get around regs!! Hence OPVs that are popping up.
  • "This flight demonstrates a flight which cannot essentially be performed by a pilot (fatigue, food and water requirements would prevent even a two-person team from existing on such a flight to say nothing of the misery.)"

    Dont' forget a two person team set a world record flying the Voyager non-stop around the world in 9 plus days. They were miserable, yes, but sometimes pilots are "a necessary evil" in flying.
  • Moderator
    Great video in that BBC link, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-10733998 showing some of how its made.
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    It should be noted that this flight will do more to enable UAS flights over non-militarized airspace than any other single flight and perhaps more than all other UAV flights to date. This flight demonstrates a flight which cannot essentially be performed by a pilot (fatigue, food and water requirements would prevent even a two-person team from existing on such a flight to say nothing of the misery.) - and a huge benefit - satellite services at low cost - think Sirius, Rural Internet, Mobile Internet, Sat Phones, Indoor GPS, Live TV broadcasts without the truck and wire, traffic reporting, news and police helis without the crashes, Indeed the range of services unleashed by cheap and near satellite access could be "The Next Big Thing" or the key to reemployment and the end of the current recession.
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  • Just read on BBC website that Zephyr has been commanded to land - after 336 hours, 24 minutes - because it has nothing more to prove :-) Read "'Eternal plane' returns to Earth" - WTG Qinetiq (UK doing its UAV bit)
  • When the MOD sold QinetiQ I wasn't sure if it would be a good thing or not, but they have gone from strength to strength
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