The FAA just cancelled AC 91-57 the one that many folks used to justify commercial aerial photography from unmanned aircraft in the USA.
Now look to the “full special” interpretation for Model Aircraft for your guidance.
Patrick said this at the time about that.
Folks in the U.S. UAS community (which now including paper airplane aficionados too) were surprised and dismayed by the FAA’s “full special” interpretation for Model Aircraft. The community is completely flabbergasted by the lack of response from the regular gaggle of advocacy groups. UAS freedom(s) just took a major hit in the U.S. and folks are asking where the hell is the leadership? We are usually treated to quick responses (canned goods) heralding any announcement from the FAA (no matter how trivial or nonsensical they may be), as enlightened and a giant step in the right direction. We can guess who got the special dispensation/backroom deal neutering.
Shocked and awed –
The community is collectively wondering what’s up with the subdued response? Where is the mobilization of the membership(s)? Adding to the dismay is the notion that this edict could have possibly caught advocacy groups off guard? It has many feeling like we just suffered a regulatory tsunami without warning and no disaster plan!
* To everyone’s integration credit… The FAA did state repeatedly that the hobby would look the same after regulation was announced. However, in this instance it would appear that reality and the FAA have parted company again.
If you want to join the Hollywood set these are the requirements for your platforms
We commissioned our art department at sUAS News to create this simple graphic to explain the system over there ;-)
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I told you guy's you needed to self regulate from the start. I even offered to help start the process. No takers. So I have no sympathy.
It's too bad there where not enough people with experience with the FAA that knew this was coming and it's sad that the people thought they would get away with unregulated flight just kept ignoring the facts I presented over the last few years.
Self regulation and a real entity to represent UAV's was needed. Everyone would spend $1000's on there UAV's but no one wanted to give $50 to form an entity for self regulation and the lobbyist needed to get the job done because that's how our system works.
I guess everyone just thought they had the power to get by with it. Overestimated their influence in such matters and now here we are.
It's a good thing I planned for this I suppose. But I still hate to see it. It could have been avoided.
Say all the nasty stuff you want about me I had your best interest in mind all along. Please try and listen to those on your side in the future with legal issues.
Gravitate toward those that speak about the legalities and integration of UAV's into the national airspace and realize you need to do your part to get the best you can done for your sport.
I suggest you start to break away from the gravity of those complaining and toward those willing to do battle for you in the real world. People with influence you need to get behind.
It's beyond me now for sure and beyond most of us. So pick your leaders well and get together as best you can. Complaining at this point you should now be aware is useless and will get you nowhere.
Look for similar regulations on agricultural UAV's next. You may be able to do your own fields but the FAA is going to require similar regulations for ag.
Flying is serious business and your gonna have to take it seriously.
I'm not trying to offend again I'm trying to help.
Mathew krawczun, Pedals2Paddles, you've both made your points, now knock it off!
You still have no clue what you're talking about.
yes because while earning your pilot license you learn nothing about how the airspace works or anything else that could possible be of use. *eye roll* I mean how dare they ask you to prove you know how to share airspace and not just take your word for it.
someone earlier in the thread tried to accuse me of being a troll but the real trolls are people like Pedals2Paddles or the other that freak-out when ever the idea of restrictions or rules come up and I'm just so tried of these people controlling the conversation on forums like this.
A private pilot's license to operate a toy makes zero sense at all. There is absolutely NOTHING in the private pilot training and practical test standards that has anything at all to do with this. It is pointless. And it serves only to benefit the high paying film industry. Of course they thing it's fine. They already have licenses.
If it's safety they want, safety they'll get. If it's power, money and regulation they want, it's outlaws they'll get.
I have a private pilot's license which I got back in 1991. I was extraordinarily luck to have a coworker for an instructor @$15/hr who was part owner of a Cessna 150 @$25/hr. You could have a thousand hours of stick time and still do something stupid. That said, having logged time on the airframe is probably a good idea if you're going to engage in commercial work. But therein lies the Catch-22. How do you log the time and make it official? Are aspiring pilots going to have to hire a certified instructor? That's certainly going to cost money. Who is going to certify them? The FAA? Clearly, they don't understand the nature of the activity beyond the fear factor. They are a bureaucracy and bureaucracies exist to maintain themselves.In the past few years, federal agencies have flexed their muscles much more than ever before. The National Forest Service has decided to close down significant percentages of the roads. But they don't physically close them off. They just declare them closed. You're supposed to know which roads are closed and if they catch you on one, they can ticket you. The BLM was ultimately in charge of the land where the Yarnell Hill fire took place last summer. They sat on their bureaucratic ass for 48 hours before allowing hotshot crews into the area. By that time the fire was out of control and the result was the death of 19 guys. That same agency regularly harasses people for picking up rocks. I have dealt with ITAR regulations. That costs $2500 a year just for the privilege of asking for permission to export something that anybody could buy off the shelf domestically. And when you talk to them, you'll get a different answer depending on who you talk to. Plus, they don't even remember talking to you.
Bottom line is that regulation is going to cost people money. A lot of money. I wonder how the Tripoli guys deal with regulation if any.
Bojan Verce How about "PPL" for individuals above 18 yaer old users of mass production cameradrone?
Or casual users who make drone footage for very small profit through social publication or selfpromotional reclam?
Bad behavior pattern for other countries
I can see both sides of this, and I can certainly see the points Mathew has made. I know it's not the popular opinion, but if the reality is such that a PPL can be obtained to immediately allow legal commercial UAS activity, then I am OK with that (so long as it is only a requirement for commercial and not hobbyist flying). I also completely agree with Gary, that flying a UAV is nothing like flying a real plane. But we have been bitching and moaning for quite some time now that the FAA isn't giving us ANY option to legal commercial flight - and if having a PPL is their way of immediately allowing at least some way of legal flight, I think that is fair provided that is not their permanent solution.
We have all seen the speed at which the FAA moves - like molasses. There is no way in hell they are going to put together a UAS pilot license certification framework in any reasonable amount of time (the next year or so). For those of us ready to go NOW, is having the option to get legal via PPL really that bad? Yes, it's not a long term solution, and yes, it's dumb to compare UAS piloting to that of a full-scale aircraft, but if this is a sign that the FAA dialog has changed from "you can't do it right now" to "if you really want to do it right now, do this" - should we still be complaining? A PPL costs between 10-15k in my area, and for folks serious about commercial operations this should be a pretty easy "cost of doing business" to recover.
Playing the devils advocate, I suppose, but I think we should at least attempt to see some positives where they exist. I haven't even had time to fully dig in and understand the rest of the caveats, but that's my opinion on the PPL requirement for what it's worth.
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