A group for DIY Drones moderators to discuss best community management practices.
Moderator Basics
These are the basic instructions for moderators:
Most of what you'll be doing is approving (or not) blog posts and otherwise keeping things running smoothly.
With blog posts, the key things to check before approving are:
- Does the post start with an image/video or at least have one very close to the top?
- Are videos embedded? (Not a link to a video elsewhere)
- Is the post informative, rather than asking a question or a request for help? (Those should be sent to the discussion forum).
Feel free to make modest edits (such as moving a photo to the top, or turning a video link into an embed) yourself. If the post should be in the discussion forum instead, paste the text into a Friend request to the author explaining that and delete the post. (Using a Friend request will hopefully take some of the sting out of having to reject their post ;-) )
When Moderating Comments:
Deletion is really the course of last resort, and tends to cause more trouble than it solves. Instead, we follow this escalation process:
- 1st course of action in case of TOS abuse: Gentle note in the comments asking people to play nice
- 2nd: Edit the comment to remove offending piece and add: "[Moderator: Text edited to comply with site TOS]". It's nice to PM the member with an explanation, warning
- 3rd: Lock comments. Also PM member with explanation/warning
- 4th (only in cases of gross abuse): Delete comment. PM member
- 5th (very rare, and only after multiple warnings): Ban member
Our Culture and Values:
Mark Harrison, one of our star moderators, articulated our culture and policies best with this post, which I'll just quote verbatim:
Here's my general feeling about a lot of things on this site; in fact, it's pretty much my general philosophy for large parts of my life:
"It's more important to enable good things than prevent bad things"
For diydrones, this generally means:
--Be generous in accepting blog posts. We're not at a point where there are more submissions than can be confortably digested in a day. Likewise, the term "drone" is evolving at such a fast rate it's hard to pin down exactly what it means for everyone. So, I'm happy to lump in quadcopters, FPV, gimbals, RC, artistic aerial videos, electronics, radios... all kinds of stuff that meets my nebulous criterion of "generally interesting to the diy drone community."
Now of course it can be protested, "what if we're flooded by dozens or hundreds of posts on marginally related topic X?" And my response would be, "let's wait until that happens; we'll have tons more context and it will be easier to make a specific decision then than make some globally encompassing set of rules now. We may all even be a little bit smarter and a little bit wiser!"
-- Be generous in approving users. Lots of people aren't comfortable with revealing too much information about themselves, or may not have a particularly cogent reason for joining a site. I'm somewhat of an exception to this case... "Are you asking what I'm interested in? Let's talk about me, it's one of the most interesting topics we can discuss, don't you agree?" But for a lot of people, they may interested in the topic, but not interested in telling you why.
-- Feel free to make mistakes, and be nice when other people are making mistakes. Sometimes the most interesting things happen when things go awry. For better or worse, sometimes the most education things as well!
I think this is pretty much in agreement with how the site has been run historically. It's a site for amateurs, by amateurs (keeping in mind the defintion of "amateur"... from the French "lover of"), and as such has had a pretty wide-ranging scope of what's acceptable. That's served the site well, enabling it to be as relevant (or even more!) in 2013 as it was when it was founded.
Of course there are big exceptions to this "don't sweat the bad stuff" philosophy -- brain surgery, rocket launches, and skydiving come to mind -- but I think it's a useful guideline for a site such as ours.
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Hi dear moderators, Recently I notice there are some " pure " advertising post from Skywalker / TopXgun ect. Where some of the post being deleted some make it to the blog post. I'm not really sure if this type of " blog " have a place here or we should delete it. As for the Skywalker, I saw their blog being deleted and a few day latter they post again with some minor modification, but still look 100% " advertisement " to me. It seems that they do " NOT " get the message or understand what their…
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His Response
Hi
From Derin Hakan Karak… to You
I've seen the edit.
This is my fault, I didn't know this but I should have known.
I will not post anything containing illegal activity to the blog anymore.
(By the way everything is legal in our country, we live in Turkey. :D )
Thanks for understanding and approving the post.
Best Regards.
Derin
@Gary,
Just saw.
"I am not sure who approved the 10km FPV flight, in the past how high, how far, how fast was discouraged. I thought we were all about responsible use around here? "
I don't necessarily agree that it was irresponsible for the guy to fly APM assisted FPV 10 k.m in Turkey and to have/view that as blog here.
Reasons:
1. He used a AP to assist for safety and it proves the reliability of APM and his trust on sending few K$ across few k.m which( FPV) thousands of guys do any way every where :)
2, He does not have to follow USA RC rules in Turkey if you insist so, then don't sell it to guys where the country law does understands that you don't need AP for flying 400' x 1500' approx rectangle/space. You can fly that with RC with lot less $.
3. Put code restrictions on these limits and make sure it can't be cracked even if it is open source!.
We can how ever add "Disclaimer" if we are worried about DiyDrone liability.
Actually I approved that blog after editing out 10k.m in text portions and after sending a PM warning to the guy. I did not watch the video how ever and if it had a mention of 10 k.m , then it was my error.
Why?
1. It is not illegal in Turkey and they are very much on par to other advanced nations. They probably/ simply understand these funny restrictions.
2. We need success stories of Diy autopilots doing reliably well and this case APM which was my primary reason.
3. It was his money and risk knowing it may not come back. Yet he did it and it gives confidence to rest of us on APM and the code base.
4. Outback Joe challenge does it every year with some prize money. Just that there are 100 guys overlooking your actions and you have to submit papers/report etc etc.
Have I missed some thing about being responsible? I am not saying approve all long distance FPV blogs or any thing that is un reasonably dangerous to live+property. But IMHO this blog was on the border at the worst.
Here is the PM sent to guy and his apology.
Hi
From You to Derin Hakan Karak…
Sent 7 hours ago
Hi Denin,
It is illegal in most part of world to fly RC or such autonomous airframe beyond LOS. DiyDrone neither recommends nor subscribes to such activity. I had edited the 10 k.m part and approved this time however in future such blog may not be approved if it shows any illegal action. Tnx
DiyDrones Support
Any Comments guys?
Heh the 2 letter spammers are evolving just deleted a 3 letter one.
@Gary,
You can only try stopping the Cat, but will it ever? :))
@Thomas thanks its a matter of stopping the copy cats.
Here is Chris' response concerning the Garris/Smith design ownership issue:
"Yes, they've been at this for months. We are not able to referee these kind of disputes.
Another possible complication is if Wayne worked for John during the design of the techPod, does the employer own the rights to the design or not?
Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer, but did study alot about IP laws as part of my masters program.
I think the issue is whether or not Wayne has a design patent or trademark. Copyright has no bearing, you can not copyright a car, plane, copyright exists in creative works.
@Gary,
I did and you do have a point. However, this flight was done in Turkey and not the US. I guess that irresponsible flying is not acceptable no matter where it occurs. I will delete the blog post.
TCIII
I am not sure who approved the 10km FPV flight, in the past how high, how far, how fast was discouraged. I thought we were all about responsible use around here?
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