Support continues to be spotty with most discussions never getting full answers.  Is there another forum that is more helpful?  I suspect I will read plenty of negative replies but the last time I posted something like this we all got very good answers and I think it is one of the most informative posts regarding OPTICAL FLOW SENSOR. 

I am trying to setup a JDrones IO BOARD, I have read many posts and forums and find nothing supporting the configurator or the Arduino snippet of code.


When you run the Arduino code to program which board type does one select?  Is there a setup guide?


When I run the configurator .exe the save to board completes with a Done message appearring but read from the board always reads a default pattern and not what was saved.


So both the Arduino code and configurator need some setup tutorial or instructions.  It would sure help the new users get things up and running without having to become developers.

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  • How to Teach a Cat Tricks

    Contrary to popular belief, cats are trainable. You can teach them useful behaviors as well as novelty tricks. You can even train them to compete in agility tournaments.

    There are some differences between the way cats and dogs are trained, of course. According to the ASPCA websitecats aren’t as likely to be motivated by praise as dogs. Cats are also less instinctively driven to work in partnership with their human companions. But that doesn’t mean they’re not superstars in waiting. With the right methods — and a little creativity on your part — your cat will soon amaze you with the things he can learn.

    Remember: Cats respond to positive reinforcement, not negative punishment

    Cats should only be taught new behaviors with positive, reward-based training. Punishment and dominance are not healthy methods, nor are they effective. “Punishment creates stress, and stress is one of the most common causes for problem behaviors in cats, including eliminating outside of the litter box and compulsive grooming,” says the ASPCA website. So with that in mind, here are some steps to get you started:

     1. The best reinforcements you can use are treats — but not just any treats. ”My foster cats love to train with me,” says Jane Harrell, Petfinder’s senior producer and long-time cat foster mom. “But they won’t work for just anything. They want the soft, gooey, stinky treats.” And Jane’s fosters aren’t alone. Many cats need something special to motivate them. This means you should toss the kibble back in the cat food bin and look through your cabinets for the good stuff your cat loves. Diced chicken or turkey, low-sodium tuna, meat-flavored baby food and commercial cat treats might be effective, depending on your cat’s individual preferences.

    2. Get your cat used to receiving rewards in response to specific behaviors. Start with a simple trick like “high five” to show your cat that good things happen during your training sessions. Watch this video to learn how to teach a cat high five.

    3. Practice, practice, practice… but not too much. Repeat this training process several times in a row so that your cat learns why he’s getting rewarded.

    You don’t want to wear your cat out or bore him, but you do want to drive home the relationship between a particular reward and behavior — as well as the command associated with that behavior. recommends teaching only one command or trick at a time and limiting sessions to 10 to 15 minutes of practicing. You will, however, want to repeat the routine again the next day and continue it on a regular basis so that your cat doesn’t forget what he’s learned.

    4. Try using a clicker to reinforce timing and – eventually — cut down on treats.

    It’s important for your cat to be rewarded as soon as she performs the desired action, but it can be difficult for many people to time their rewards precisely with their cat’s behavior. A clicker can help with timing by introducing a sound that tells the cat that what they just did was good.  To teach your cat what the clicker means, “charge” the clicker by clicking and treating your cat without requesting any action. After a few times your cat will learn that the clicker noise means good things are coming and, eventually, the clicker can be its own reward. You now have an aid for perfecting the timing of a reward.

    5. Once your cat has fully mastered his first trick, move on to others. Using treats and your clicker, you can introduce common tricks like “down,” “stay” and “come.” But feel free to get creative. You might also want to consider teaching your cat practical behaviors like how to walk on a leash.


  • I think posting with a title in all capitals should be grounds for deletion.

  • Hi Wessie, Chuck and all,

    Exactly right!

    We are in an interesting position at the leading edge of an explosion.

    Multicopters are starting to explode and hit the true novice entries and that is fine, - except!!!

    If your truly starting from scratch, really the first thing you ought to do is go out and buy the little teeny tiny Traxxas quad and learn how these things basically work without danger or drama (wont even scare your cat.) and pretty much won't break.

    And then maybe kick it up a notch with something like the Blade offering that will be coming out this fall.

    The reality is DIYDrones is the other end of that equation, a tremendous amount of effort is in fact put in to helping NewBe's but DIYDrones is really where the rubber truly meets the road.

    A 427 full race Cobra or a CF40 Ferrari is a very bad choice for a first car.

    I think it safe to say that the only people ahead of us are the military and VERY expensive UAS projects (and there are a lot of APM's in those too).

    Veteran RC modelers expect to have a learning curve and crash and spend is part of that curve.

    And they have a really big club the AMA which really stresses safety and provides insurance.

    Now a lot of people are entering this hobby and especially multi-rotors who have no previous experience at all and no concept of what safety even means in relation to these things.

    One thing I can say is that very small and light and low powered is intrinsically a lot safer than bigger, heavier and knife edge carbon fiber propellers.

    The AR-Drone Parrot has a lot of intrinsic safety built in because it is light, foam protected and has slow geared props, you might manage a nick, but it is unlikely to cut you to ribbons.

    And the little Traxxas is intrinsically safe because it is minuscule and low powered.

    These little copters are handled by complete novices without wreaking havoc.

    My little DJI FlameWheels with fairly dull Carbon Filled plastic propellers could certainly cause damage and you would definitely not want one to fall on your head, but the hazard is still relatively low.

    On the other hand my friends hexacopter with camera mount, 2 batteries, Scorpion Motors and knife edge Graupner carbon fiber propellers can certainly result in a very fast case of severe blood loss if you do anything wrong.

    It is important that we notify the many new people coming into this that it is to their own and everyone else's best interest if they follow a safe and thoughtful and carefully staged introduction to this hobby.

    DIYDrones is where we would like you to end up, but it may not be the ideal place to start out for everybody.

  • Two things:
    1) 3DR knows perfectly that to support their business model they need an active and working community, where people actually get though answers to their problems. This isn't actually happening. Why they don't they pay someone to do it fulltime? I would.

    2) Consequence of the lack of "open source" support is that we all loose a lot of time trying to understand what's wrong or how do we have to do that. Since that my time has a value, and the count of hair i lose too, i would like 3DR to provide some paid support service. I would be happy to pay for answers.

  • OK, William

    Let me explain a few things for you, as you seem to be confused.

    1) J-drones and 3DR are different companies.

    2) From what I see in the listing for the Jdrones IO board it says its "Aurduino compatible". That means it has a bootloader that can use the Arduino IDE. Again, this has nothing to do with ArduCopter other than tha fact that it also is Arduino compatible.

    3) The J-drone device is a stand alone device that you are responsible for getting your APM to communicate with it. I don't think it's supported and no where does anything say it is.

    4) I could easily write an interface module for you, but I have other things todo. Bye!

  • As Chris already said, this page is not a support unit and additionally the JDIO board is not made by 3DR. It's made by jDrones, which is a company based in Thailand! If you have problems with that product, you should contact the manufacturer and not complain to people who have nothing to do with the product for not helping you with it!

    Anyways, Jani Hirvinen, the owner of jDrones is a regular user here and there is a blog post about the JDIO-board in which he also answers questions. In the comments to this blog post, Jani wrote in reply to me on June 18th that the JDIO uses the Arduino MiniPro bootloader, which means, in the Arduino GUI, you'd select MiniPro as board.

    So obviously, your search was not very thorough, otherwise you would have easily found the blog post with attached discussions.

    Besides, you could have also simply tried all board types which have an ATMEGA 328P on it from the settings - the GUI complains if it's the wrong one.

  • "This ain't the compaint department" - I presume this is literally true.  So what, who or where is the "complaint department"?

    Does 3DR do support, or is this outsourced to "the community"?

    I've never really got my head around the relationship between the community and the 3DR business.

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    As of this comment your post has received over 190 views by various community members in just over 24 hours. Even as I write this it has gone over 200 views. Perhaps the reason you aren't getting the results you desire is the negativity with which you respond to all the suggestions that have thus far been put forth. I fully expect to see some kind of comment from you in response to my post along the lines of 'Oh-gee that's helpful.'

    Anyway I think if you are patient and show some consideration for the fact that people here are donating their time and energy to help you with your problem, you'll get better results. And by patience I mean that you posted your question on the 4th of July, a holiday for many community members, and at a time of day where those who weren't in this hemisphere were probably asleep.

    Your attitude is pushing people who would genuinely like to help you, to instead shut the door on you and tell you to 'Shove off', 'You're on your own now'. So dial it back a bit and have some patience.

    Good Luck and Regards,

    Nathaniel ~KD2DEY

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    Hi All,

    I think that all members here need to keep in mind that Do It Yourself does not mean that you will have a Heath Kit level manual at your disposal.

    We all try to do our best here to support products that have been made available to the DIY Drones community, but as Chris and John have pointed out, there is a limit as to what the membership can provide in the way of help. Sometimes a member gets lucky and receives a fair amount of useful responses and in other cases, nada.



  • William at first (other post) I thought ok just a little frustrated but this is "diy" do it yourself. And this community is volunteer just like Chris stated.  People will help out best they can but its not their 9 to 5 job to do so. Maybe something like a Phantom would of been a better choice?  

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